jorgelito,
I don't see anything confusing in the threads or spam-ish in your replies. I just think that flooding the board with a spate of gun arguments, well really one argument, becomes tedious. tedious to read and respond to. I can't imagine a member of TFP not knowing dk's position on this subject by now and the denny incident is utilized as a mere springboard to launch into the necessities of gun ownership. ok great, so here comes another thread, which is what he pretty much alluded to when he said that people didn't care about the other threads--they were falling off the front page so now the issue is pushed back to the top.
I live down the road from you, jorgelito. The "hoops" aren't as numerous and difficult as you're making them out to be, or assuming them to be. And that's evidenced by the fact that the clerk was "offering" you a weapon and he didn't have one because they were bought up. It's not like people knew katrina was going to go off and started applying weeks before, don't you agree? the hardest difficulty is obtaining a handgun, not a rifle. you don't need a gun expert to teach you all about velocity and accuracy to realize whether you would rather them over hideability when it comes to lawful defense purposes.
it's not a sniping issue, although maybe that sounds cool to some, but rather a question of what you intend to do with the weapon. Do you intend to shoot what you're aiming at and incapacitate it, or hide the thing. and yeah, a 12ga is excellent for harming another human being, but it's not very discriminate. make sure you don't harm someone you love in the process...and don't cripple it's already limited accuracy by sawing the end off to make it more portable and hideable. other than that, you have to be closer than other types of weapons, so pick your poisen I guess is the point of that.
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Originally Posted by jorgelito
Yes, I was in a sporting goods store in Los Angeles. This was just after Hurricane Katrina and being prepared for disaster was a "hot topic" of the day. I was bit surprised as I was expecting flashlights etc to be sold out but not guns. It wasn't at the forefront of my mind.
I wasn't offered a weapon, the clerk was perempting me I guess. In the vain of "If your looking to buy a gun we're all sold out" type of thing cause there was such a run on them after the events in New Orleans.
My reference to the difficulty in obtaining a weapon is simply that there's a bunch of "hoops" to jump through - application, waiting period, background check etc. especially compared with obtaining an illegal weapon where Joe Schmoe doesn't bother with checking your background etc...but he's cash only.
As for high velocity and accuracy I don't know - I'm not a gun expert which is one of the reasons I don't own a gun yet. My intention is to get the proper training as I believe owning a gun is a huge responsiblity. But the fact remains that it is a constitutionally protected right (another issue as well we can/ have debate). I don't take firearms lightly but as a separate issue, I value the right. Does that make sense? I hope that helps clarify things a bit. Oh, yeah, I guess 12-guage shotgun would be fine in relative close quarters in home defense type situations, maybe the guys in the gun thread would know. High velocity, accuracy sounds like a sniping thing and that's not really me.
What's the confusing thing about the threads? Did you find my post to be annoying or spam? It's my first post in this thread...
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