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Old 04-28-2006, 08:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Isn't your thread just a "re-hash", of this one, over a year ago, here, titled:
<a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?p=1695374&highlight=mcclellan+weapons+thought#post1695374">Are the Feb. 18 Harris Iraq Poll Results "The triumph of Opinion Over News"?</a>

How many times do we have to debunk the same, tired propaganda "Op"?
I thought that this thread exposed this BS for what it is:
<a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpost.php?p=2051207&postcount=36">Are we going to let cheerleader Robert Joseph, lead us into another unnecessary war?</a>

It's a non-issue. Gold is above $650 oz...for the first time in 26 years....oil is headed back to $75 per bbl, and silver is pushing to $14 oz. (up from $3.75 oz, in 2003) Those are real issues...not the neocon propaganda intended to distract from the real impact of their failed, fiscally and morally corrosive agenda....here is where "they" have us heading:
Quote:
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials...eff072505.html
<b>Erosion of Financial Wealth</b>
.......First, as the money supply is increased through credit expansion, the compounding effects of interest payments can ultimately lead to hyperinflation, and eventually a complete economic breakdown. Goods and services become so costly that no one can afford them. A country's currency becomes worthless, international trade ceases and economic chaos ensues. A classic example of this occurred during the reign of the German Weimar Republic from 1919-1923. In 1919, one ounce of gold was 75 marks. By 1923, it was 23 trillion marks.
In 2001, an ounce of gold was $257, by 2006, it was <a href="http://www.kitco.com/">$656.50</a>

Once again, we will attack a country, unilaterally, and then the POTUS reluctantly admit that <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/01/20050112-7.html#1">"the weapons that we all believed were there, based on the intelligence, were not there."</a>

...the last time we followed the rantings of these folks, we suffered an estimated $2 trillion obligation, when the final cost is fully measured, including lifetime care for most severely wounded troops. The loss of future accomplishments of our 2400 dead troops, cannot even be estimated.

Here's the "news":
Quote:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042106N.shtml
"Cabal" Blocked 2003 Nuclear Talks With Iran
By Gareth Porter
Inter Press Service

Tuesday 28 March 2006

Washington - The George W. Bush administration failed to enter into negotiations with Iran on its nuclear programme in May 2003 because neoconservative zealots who advocated destabilisation and regime change were able to block any serious diplomatic engagement with Tehran, according to former administration officials.

The same neoconservative veto power also prevented the administration from adopting any official policy statement on Iran, those same officials say.

<b>Lawrence Wilkerson, then chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, says the failure to adopt a formal Iran policy in 2002-2003 was the result of obstruction by a "secret cabal" of neoconservatives in the administration, led by Vice Pres. Dick Cheney.</b>

"The secret cabal got what it wanted: no negotiations with Tehran," Wilkerson wrote in an e-mail to IPS.......
and here is what our "Intelligence Czar", had to say, eight days ago. He should know....shouldn't he? He seems to be calm and unconcerned, and he knows a lot more than any of us do.....
Quote:
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2.../21-11779.html
Iranian Nuclear Developments Pose Concerns, Negroponte Says
Intelligence director also discusses North Korea, Iraq, terrorism

By Jacquelyn S. Porth
Washington File Staff Writer

....Negroponte, in a speech in Washington, sought to put Iran’s technical capabilities into perspective, pointing out that Iran will have to enrich uranium for several more years before it has enough fissile material to put into a nuclear weapon. Although intelligence analysts continue to believe that Iran is determined to acquire a nuclear weapons capability, Negroponte said, they believe it might not achieve that goal until “perhaps into the next decade.”.....
Nope....Negroponte doesn't seem too worried about anything, to me....
Quote:
http://public.cq.com/public/20060303_homeland.html
CQ HOMELAND SECURITY – INTELLIGENCE
March 3, 2006 – 8:44 p.m.
Negroponte Makes the Most of His Post as Minister Without Portfolio
By Jeff Stein, CQ Staff

On many a workday lunchtime, the nominal boss of U.S. intelligence, John D. Negroponte, can be found at a private club in downtown Washington, getting a massage, taking a swim, and having lunch, followed by a good cigar and a perusal of the daily papers in the club’s library.

<b>“He spends three hours there [every] Monday through Friday,”</b> gripes a senior counterterrorism official, noting that <b>the former ambassador has a security detail sitting outside all that time in chase cars.</b> Others say they’ve seen the Director of National Intelligence at the University Club, a 100-year-old mansion-like redoubt of dark oak panels and high ceilings a few blocks from the White House, only “several” times a week.......
I responded to the question that you are really asking:
Is there enough evidence of an Iran, nuclear "threat", to give our POTUS the excuse to launch pre-emptive attacks against Iran. The answer, just as it was in Iraq...is <h6>no!</h6>.

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