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Originally Posted by Thagrastay
This is silly.
Where in the world in any of our governmental documents does it say that the President, or any elected official for that matter, has to be impartial while in office? What is wrong with you people? Go read your American history- this nation was FOUNDED on religious principles- specifically, Christian principles. On that, all the founding fathers agreed. Even Benjamin Franklin adhered to the idea that God must be present in our government in order for it to run efficiently.
We pl;ace our hands on the Bible when we swear to things. Our President place their hands on the Bible when they swear their oath of office. Religion is an integral part of the government of our nation and the persons who run it.
To ask that a President and our elected officials leave their beliefs at the door of their offices is inviting danger in a very big way: If they do not answer to their God, to whom do they answer? The founders of our country would not allow atheists to hold office for that very reason. They had no accountability internally to anyone other than themselves.
I thank God that George W Bush holds himself accountable to God. I wish more politicians did.
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I never made the statement it “HAS TO BE”. I was referencing the 1999 movie Deterrence where the character President was Jewish, but stated he followed the beliefs of an agnostic while in office. I occasionally wonder how it would be to have a true Chrisitian or actually any religion that believes Armageddon is an evitable reality, such as most do sitting in the oval office. For someone that really believes that God is going to clean up our mess instead of humanity doing it for itself; how might that affect “worldly” decisions. I haven’t really seen this come into effect because I haven’t seen a true Christian in the Executive office.
Following your suggestion, I read some American history and I’m getting a different perspective, that’s not to say you are wrong. The U.S. Constitution explicitly forbade Congress to create or in any way provide for an establishment of religion. During the 1787 Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, a motion to pray collectively was voted down. Benjamin Franklin noted that there were only two or three besides himself who wanted to open with prayers. Ironically Franklin himself, during his time in England, had been a member of Sir Francis Dashwood's infamous Hell-Fire Club. A supposed Christian a member of this club? I see a direct parallel between him and our current person with the Bohemian Grove.
In 1802 Thomas Jefferson made the Founders' concept of the First Amendment even more explicit, writing that its intent was to build "a wall of separation between church and state", adding that "I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature." During the eight years of his Presidency, Jefferson refused to issue a Thanksgiving proclamation.
"Nor did the Founding Fathers put "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance or "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency. "Under God" was added to the Pledge by an act of Congress in 1954, during the McCarthy era. "In God We Trust" began appearing on coins in 1864 and became the official motto of the United States only in 1956. [The motto conceived by the Founding Fathers was "E Pluribus Unum" (Out of Many, One).
Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of property----excuse me happiness. Yes, the Puritans wanted to escape the King’s grip, but fast forward that and I think the constitution was created with the understanding there would be evolution. The agreement between the founding fathers that owned slaves and those against was the understanding that they needed each other to beat England. The side against slavery understood the constitution would be the very thing that would set them free.
My whole point/question/thought was for someone that is making the kinds of decisions the President has to make, I wonder what the effect would be for someone that has no doubt in their mind that an inevitable battle is coming. Would it be “not on my watch”? or Perhaps “It’s my destiny to be the one- he told me so”.
In my opinion I’d rather see the President sworn in on a lie detector than a Bible.