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Originally Posted by boatin
And there are some Catholic Priests that do have done horrible, inexcusable things. Should we kick all priests out of the country? Or do they have license to do those things because they are citizens?
My very simple point is that numbers matter. If half the illegals are raping and looting, that's a different scale of problem than if .01% does. It's still wrong, I don't like it, but the difference does matter.
Look: I'm not saying crime is ok. I'm not saying that we should be embracing murderers. F**k them. I'm TRYING to say that some small subset of horror shouldn't control the greater strategy.
If you look at what YOU are saying:
I said nothing of the sort. I don't know how you miss that you are taking my words and spinning them in the most negative way possible.
I don't understand why you would do that. If you want to get into a pissing match about minor comments from a post, have fun with that.
I'll try to have a conversation with Loganmule.
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Have you addressed any changing of the law? Not that I have seen.
Have you argued for ILLEGALS to be in this country? Yes.
Do you believe in amnesty then? I assume, you do.
Amnesty from what? Breaking the law to enter the country ILLEGALLY?
Alright then I want amnesty on my taxes, on any speed limit laws I make break, on all peoples who steal from stores because they don't have enough money to provide for their families. I demand amnesty from medical bills.... Hell if we the taxpayers can shell out a BILLION to treat ILLEGALS we sure as Hell can afford the $25,000 bill I a taxpaying citizen raked up in October.
You are saying breaking the law is acceptable, because you do not believe there should be any retribution for ILLEGALLY entering the US. You have offered no defenses to your stance, except to say YOU dislike the law. Well, a MAJORITY disagrees with you and instead of offering some form of option or reworking of the law, you dismiss it and that's it.
I dismiss speed limits, jaywalking and grand theft. In fact, I propose that anyone who wants to test drive a new car should be able to just take it home and keep it until they tire of it and then they can go and get a new one.
I do so simply because I like none of those laws and I want a Lambourghini this week, next week I want a Hummer.
Hell, my stealing means that people work to make new cars, so I'm helping the economy through my illegal actions.
Sound absurd?
So does allowing ILLEGAL immigrants into this nation while they refuse to assimilate, learn English and use our tax dollars while putting nothing in (in bi-lingual lawsuits, in the BILLION dollar free healthcare bill, and so on). Then expecting the rest of us to gladly accept them and telling me, "they help our economy". That's absurd to me, it's a slap in my face and a slap to everyone who has come into this country and worked to assimilate and become true citizens of the US.