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dk: no, it wouldn't.
not in the way you would prefer.
besides, if you want to play the intent game, why are there so few documents, and such incomplete documentation, concerning the constitutional convention itself if the idea was to generate a future situation in which the proceedings would be set up as THE regulative interpretive framework within which the constitutional system itself operated? my understanding is that the idea at the time was that the proceedings NOT be used in the way you propose. the idea was that what mattered was the document as frame for the unfolding/development/interpretation of law--which necessarily involves an unfolding/development/interpretation of the frame.
the partial records of the convention, the federalist papers ARE NOT LAW.
i hope that is clear enough.
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I am perfectly willing to acknowledge that after all of the debates concerning the constitution that the authors of said document truly didn't intend to have all individuals have the right to bear arms if someone can show me ANY, ONE SINGLE SHRED, of proof that that argument exists. I know that in politics, it's a matter of practice for the lawmakers to say one thing to the people and then write a law that is completely opposite, but there usually ends up leaving some sort of trail to show that.
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your position on this is simply untenable conceptually, untenable methodologically, and what is more undesirable legally and politically.
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Please show me how.
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what it seems to me you really want to do is throw out the entire american common law system and replace it with a version of the civil law tradition--but the fetishism of the constitution around which this desire seems to hinge prevents you from saying as much. so you go for a parallel type of system that you can pretend is consistent with what exists. it isnt. yours is a radical position, one that is connected to a politics that you are not particularly forthcoming about, except when it comes to guns. even then, you prefer to present your positions on guns as if they were not embedded in a wider context. this makes little sense to me, but that's fine.
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color me confused, I have no idea what you tried to say with this. although I do recognize that you paint an opinion that isn't in line with yours with the word 'radical'.