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Old 04-19-2006, 09:35 AM   #321 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by crossova
Contents has not been disclosed to the public.
Again, which box on which plane? Link to an article?

Just so you know, the contents of Flight 93 were just made public last week so that the government could use it the prosecution of Moussaoui.

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Originally Posted by crossova
Shakran & The_Jazz, in regards to the comment i made about Flight 93. I was referring to the phone calls made from passengers on the planes just before they crashed. When we had spoke about phone calls and whether it was possible to call from such high altitutdes, in my mind i thought you all were talking about that flight. The articles I saw and on the documentary I watched spoke about the probability of those passengers actually making a successful phone call at that altitude.

I did not know if the plane that struck the pentagon had passengers making phone calls at 32000 feet or just prior to their collision with the building.
As long as we're all clear about what we're talking about, that's fine. Just so you know, the average cell phone tower has an effective range of about 6 miles with coverage extending out to about 9 miles, according to one of the files that I have in my office for a cell tower erector. There's no reason to assume that this range would vary vertical compared to the horizontal range. That means that at 32,000 feet, Flight 93 would have been intermitently been in range of towers as they flew directly over them but still within the effective (albeit at low signal strength) range of coverage below. There would certainly be areas of low coverage, especially over portions of PA, but there's no reason to think that these calls were/are impossible.

By the way, I made a bunch of cell phone calls at 6650 feet in 1999, although my feet were firmly on the ground within the Great Smokey Mountains National Park. There are no cell towers within the park, and I was at Clingmans Dome, which is 10 miles from the nearest border.

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Originally Posted by crossova
The articles I read

I know the passport from the WTC hijacker was not the best condition, but the probabilities of that happening seemed to be a bit low. IMO.
The probabilities of a person surviving a large object punched through their skull with no appreciable loss of brain use or a small-caliber bullet striking the skull, traveling between skull and skin and exiting on the other side or piece of jewelry lost in the ocean being recovered years later and returned to its owner are all similarly small yet there is documented proof of all 3 occurring multiple times. Something having a low probablility of happening does not it can't happen. To put it in poker terms, the chances of drawing a royal flush of the deal are tiny but it still happens.

I can give you lots of ways that I would design a conspiracy to acheive the outcomes of 9/11, but faking the physical evidence found at the scene and the eyewitness reports would be very difficult. One thing that you should remember is that a housewife from Poukipsee makes a terrible witness, especially when she's looking at a horrifying event like a plane crash. That's why preferred witnesses are trained observers like pilots or cops.
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