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Originally Posted by ubertuber
I'm really confused as to why this keeps coming up. Immigrants generally come here to work, not to be homeless on the streets. If they can jobs in a society that says it is illegal for them to work, why don't we value that work ethic and resourcefulness? But what does it have to do with allegedly fat homeless people who are scraping by off of scraps, charity, and government assistance?
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The point, my tuberific friend, is that we already have a bad state of affairs here in the US, by and large in metro cities, without MORE people coming into the country that will require social aid. When homeless people go to the hospital, they get treated, but they do not pay, we pay. When homeless people get drunk and disorderly (not that they all do), they go to jail and we pay (they aren't paying taxes to keep police employed, we are). These are just a couple of examples, and it's not just homeless people. We have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people taking advantage of medicare/medicaid, many of whom have not put their fair share into the pot. We have a large number of social programs that you and I pay for that are used by people who have NOT paid for them. Adding more people into the mix that need to withdraw from those programs, but do not deposit into them means it hurts us, the legal, working, tax-paying citizens of this country. I'm really confused why some people don't understand that. We have ENOUGH problems at home... let's fix them before worrying about the poor people down the street. It's like this... say you live in Detroit and you're a good person. One day you come across a decent sum of money and want to help people. Do you invest the money back into Detroit, where your friends and family live, where you know the guy that owns the party store or gas station, or do you take the money and put it into immprovements in Atlanta? Most people would invest in their OWN community by choice. That's the point I'm trying to make. We're worried abouit reforms to help foreigners. What about reforms to help US?! Fuck the mexicans until social security is fixed. Screw them until we don't have massive poverty in our inner cities. To hell with offering spanish language courses at high schools until US literacy is the best in the world. *sigh* I just don't get it...
Why do we bend over backwards to "help" illegal immigrants? Why does Los Angeles have spanish-language classes? Have more ESL classes, and then they can graduate only by taking the normal englihs classes after a year or two. I had a friend who moved here from Germany in elementary school. He was too young to have really learned Enligh back in Germany. When they moved here, his father put him in a special school to TEACH him English, then in fourth grade he came to my school and learned just as well as everyone else. I highly doubt Mexicans are any less capable... they just don't WANT to do it for the most part. Well, fuck 'em then! That makes it even worse. Now people are paying higher taxes to support MORE teachers so that lazy fucking illegal people don't have to be bothered with learning English. Bullshit!
Again, I have nothing against Hispanics. Mexicans are great. They're welcome to come here legally, get a job, pay taxes and come over to my place for dinner. That's awesome. They are not, however, welcome to unlawfully invade my country, demand benefits and social services, and not contribute to the economic well being of my country. But, that's just me...