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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
dksuddeth - I have to take issue with one of your examples. The Soviet Union did indeed ban gun ownership in 1929, but it was not universal and didn't apply to party members. The purges that you mentioned actually started well before 1929, and there were mass arrests of Whites (monarchists) and members and supporters of the Provisional Government as early as 1919 and lasted until 1924. The various purges of 1929 to 1953 were primarily aimed at party members, who were allowed the right by the 1924 constitution. Also the 20 million "dissidents" is a misleading statement since people arrested from 1934-37 were primarily loyal party members (up to that point anyway) with an estimated 7.5M arrested during that 4 years period and also includes the 1938-39 Army purge whose victims were most certainly armed. There's also the glaring omission that gun ownership in the early Soviet period was quite uncommon, especially among the eventual victims of the various purges who tended to be middle and upper class (in Soviet standards, not pre-Revolutionary Russian it's important to note).
Glaring errors like that make me doubt the rest of your statistics (or rather Geoff Metcalf's, who seems to be the basis for that post).
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One would think that as a loyal party member, you wouldn't be arrested.....and once arrested, you could conceivably be called a dissident? Call it a glaring error all you like, the fact still remains that 20 million dissidents were killed after gun control was established. Of course, you're free to ignore or disavow any set of numbers at your choosing.
Most of the genocide statistics were reported “Death by ‘Gun Control’: The Human Cost of Victim
Disarmament, Aaron Zelman & Richard W. Stevens, 2001
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
I agree that we all have and should continue to have the right to bear arms, but I am all for the invokation of the "well-regulated militia" portion of the amendment. I would like to see gun owners required to take training classes every few years and prove their accuracy on a range as well.
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Most states that issue licenses already require this.
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Gun safes, trigger locks and other safety devices should be required to be used in every home where children are present, and armed parents should have to undergo special training on the dangers of kids and guns.
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I completely agree with gun safes, and not the puny little 50 pound kind, but the huge 400 pound hernia inducing honkers that are bolted to the floor. Trigger locks are useless. 31 of 32 models of gun locks tested by the government’s Consumer Product Safety Commission could be opened without the key.
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I also think that there should be stiffer penalties for those who facilitate straw purchases and the like, but that's another discussion.
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I agree wholeheartedly, and I also agree on that being another discussion.
