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Originally Posted by Ustwo
So what you are saying is that with time things change and that makes it a liberal victory?
Times and social morals and values change, its not a victory or a defeat, and they will change again.
By default the 'conservative' side will always 'loose' because again times change, using the traditional definitions, and therefore your entire post is basically stating the obvious.
In terms of current political philosphies of 'conservative vrs liberal' its wrong of course.
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Tell MLK Jr. that he did not win against conservative ideals. Tell liberals advocating programs of fair housing, against which "conservative" Goldwater said that it was not right to force people who did not want to live together to do so, are not victorious today. Tell Susan B. Anthony that her liberal ideas of enfranchising women was not victorious. Tell Woodrow Wilson that his idea of a League of Nations does not live in the United Nations today, something conservatives felt would take over the US during the Communist scare of the 50s.
Yes, my theory is, overall, liberal ideas have come out victorious through out American history much more than their conservative counterparts. Show me an equal number of examples of conservative ideas that have held up through the same eras. In terms of current political philosophies, I can't be sure that extrapolation for the future using the theory would be accurate.