balefire88

"especially those that our founders believed." Why is it so important to keep exactly what they believed? I'll support to keep it if you can prove to me that it reduces crime, and I'll support getting rid of it someone proves to me that it increases crime. I want to deal with the relevant issues of today. I'm a realist. If it would help society today to get rid of the 2nd amendment because the end result would be decreasing crime, then I'd rather do that than prepare for the possiblity that I have to fight against the US government. If people have to fight against an oppressive US government, they'll find whatever means possible. I'll choose non-violence. A gun lover can procure guns from outside sources, as the founding fathers did from France. Another, and I absolutely detest having to use this example, can use IEDs, as evidenced by Iraqi terrorists, to fight.

Now, I pointed this out before, but I shall do so again because I think its a strong point against what our founding fathers believed. Many of them, in fact some of the best of them, believed that slaves and women were inferior. They believed these things because in those days, it made sense to them. In the same way, owning guns made a lot of sense then, for the reasons I outlined in previous posts. Today, it might or might not make sense depending on, to me, the crime issue. If the crime issue was resolved, then yes, I don't have any objections to the 2nd amendment. So, I feel that our energies would be better devoted to arguing about crime rather than whether founding fathers meant or did not mean for us to have guns in the year 2000.