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Originally Posted by willravel
You mean liberal and conservative in the traditional sense, right (conservative = conservative, liberal = liberal)? Not in the recent sense (liberal = democrat, conservative = republican)? If so, then I'd say it's a bit of a generalization. There are many places where the conservatives have clearly taken from the liberals. One example: conservatives are traditionally pro death penalty. We still have a death penalty.
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Yeah, it is a generalization. That's why I said overall, but I should have explicitly stated that it was a generalization. I should not have put in death penalty without an explantion, but isn't the use of the death penalty on the decline in general? Not only that, I always thought of not executing, for example, the mentally retarded and the under 18 group, as a liberal sentiment. Could be wrong about this though. If I'm right, then I'd say the liberals are actually turning the tide in this battle as well.
The mistake I made was including current issues, since they're not fully decided on. People are still fighting the good fight, so it would just enrage people if I were to say the liberals won. I just think they're winning in the long term. As for other past issues they've won that I just thought of: United Nations, right to vote for all, and union laws.