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Old 04-13-2006, 10:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
The_Jazz
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Wow, I want to live in your world of black and white! Do the magical fairies hand out gumdrops EVERY day where you live?

The term "crazy" has a very specific meaning. You defined it correctly, but using it to catagorize the Iranian government because you don't agree with them is naive to the extreme. "Crazy" people don't successfully conduct billions of dollars in trade a year with the rest of the world or negotiate treaties or manage to subvert other people's elections (see Hamas). I would say that the Iranian leadership is very well grounded in the reality of the political landscape of the Middle East. They certainly are doing a very good job of exterting lots of control over their neighbors. "Crazy" people would have stopped doing business with the rest of the world and attacked their neighbors at every opportunity using your own definition.

As far as the long link you posted, how does that in any way refute what I wrote? I conceed the existance of the Guardian Council and explained how it worked and agreed that it's a closed loop system. Regardless of your belief that Iranian universal sufferage doesn't mean anything, Iranians still chose from multiple candidates with differing opinions, which is more than can be said for Iraq, which by the way never met the definition for "free and democratic elections".

As for your final accusations that I made false statements, you need to point them out since I'm calling bullshit. All my statements were well researched and grounded in fact. While you're at it, why don't you point out where I made any anti-American or anti-administration comment or even hinted at one.
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