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Originally Posted by host
politicophile, I am fascinated by your close proximity to James Tobin. I have no idea if this gives you more or less insight into this situation...it probably makes it more puzzling for you and for your family.
I believe that you are in a position to accurately answer the question of where James Tobin could have received a fairer trial, before a more potentially sympathetic court or jury, than he must have received in conservative, caucasian, New Hampshire.
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As I previously stated, Tobin received due process and was convicted in a fair trial. It is true that innocent people are sometimes convicted, but it does not happen often. There is no doubt in my mind that the available evidence and testimony was sufficient to merit a conviction, leaving two possibilities: either Tobin lied to my face about his conviction, or the evidence and/or testimony at his trial was flawed. Since I have no evidence of the latter, the prudent conclusion seems to be that he is, in fact, guilty.
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Originally Posted by Host
I can't disagree with much in your post. I'll reemphasize my main point....why would McCain want to risk immersing himself into two scandals related to RNC campaign related criminal activity...Tobin/phone gate, and alleged criminal activity, Delay/Terry Nelson $190,000 money laundering.
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We are in agreement that it doesn't seem very smart to hire potentially "damaged goods." However, the foolishness of the hire does not necessarily equate to corruption on McCain's part.
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Originally Posted by Host
<b>if...there was not the additional problem...for Nelson...and now for McCain...,that Nelson is at the core, according to the Texas indictment of Delay...of RNC complicity in actually laundering the $190,000 in question, and then distributing the laundered corporate sourced campaign contributions to Texas state office candidates.</b>
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I again appeal to the core value of presumed innocence. Until Nelson is indicted and convicted, claims about his alleged criminal history are mere hearsay. All defendants of all political stripes deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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Originally Posted by Host
McCain trapped himself. If he fires Terry Nelson too soon, he will appear to validate money laundering charges against Tom Delay, and cast doubt on the effort of the RNC effor that involved spending millions of dollars to "cover up" whatever the actual potentially damaging facts are in the Tobin centered, republican party commissioned New Hampshire "phone gate" 2002 campaign "dirty tricks" voting interference "Op".
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Exactly. A past mistake has trapped McCain in an uncomfortable position. As you allege, there appears to have been significant Republican misconduct. However, I do not see how it is linked to McCain, save for his unwise decision to hire an advisor who has been accused by some of being corrupt.
That's all for now. Let me just say that, while McCain and I differ on several key ideological points, I do not believe he is corrupt. In some ways, Host's efforts to demonstrate corruption have had the perverse effect of reinforcing my opinion.