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Originally Posted by willravel
Same effect does not mean same cause, and they don't even have the same effect. Gun control is set up to make sure that dangerous people can't get guns. Gun bans are set up to make sure no one gets guns. Those are two very different situations.
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Actually, they do have the same effect. They do not work to keep guns out of the criminals hands. They only work to make it harder or impossible for law abiding citizens to have them.
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Originally Posted by willravel
I;ve read this 4 timees now and I think I need claraification. I think what you mean is that as far as gun control violent and nonviolent criminals should not be grouped together.
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correct.
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Originally Posted by willravel
I think that stalkers are just as dangerous with guns as gang members. They are both antisocial and could have the intent to use guns.
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they are. I'm not saying that they aren't, but i've read enough stories and seen enough vindictive people that go get a restraining order in a divorce case for spite, despite the fact that there never was any abuse to begin with. It usually goes a long way in to settling custody issues after the fact.
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Originally Posted by willravel
I have to go with the judicial system on this. If you are given a restraining order, then you are legally a danger or threat to someone. Someone who is a legal danger to someone else should not be given a firearm. I disagree with many court rulings, but they are legal. Gun control can't be on a case-by-case basis.
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so you support oligarchy. If a court decides a case wrongly, then tough shit? it's legal and we must live with it?