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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I am a "right-winger" and I argue that the wage suppression goes into the consumers pocket, or it generates more liesure time. The real question is what is the value of labor? If millions of "illegal immegrants" can do a job for less money than an American, what is wrong with that? Nothing.....
.....I think the real problem are with people who who take things for granted. If people want top dollar for their labor they have to continually improve their marketable skills. Thats the bottom line.
Anyone who is worried about an uneducated third world person taking their job has some really major problems. Perhaps its time for us to stop spending every free moment drinking beer and watching sports and learn some new skills.
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I am astounded by the contradiction of beliefs of folks who support the "war on terror", and "buy" what I perceive is a "scenario of fear", contrived and nurtured by a federal executive administration that owes it's amazingly shrunken support numbers to......these same folks who exhibit contradictory beliefs.
The "fear factor", manufactured by the administration in the wake of 9/11, was meant to attract support from the 55 percent of potential voters who walked away sometime between the former TANG ace's May 2003 flight suit strut across the carrier deck.....and.....now.
The passage of time and the dwindling of support for the "War", lays bare the farcical "threat" to the nation's security, that couldn't even convince (scare?) the administration's core supporters to demand borders and ports secure enough to interfere with their drive to displace the native workforce (a demanding lot of malcontents who won't work for wages and benefits driven down by the trespassers who streamed in, uninterrupted, even by "the war").
Some of the 55 percent who no longer support the "War President". may have caught sight of the fact that the administration intentionally overlooked and underfunded border and port security because.....even in a time of contrived war, the agenda to continue the growth of a "parallel", lower wage, much more docile, easily cowed (they live in fear because of the deliberately orchestrated perception that, any minute, if they attract much attention, they will be exposed as illegals) labor pool of maids, gardeners, cooks, dishwashers, janitors, and crop tillers, TOOK PRIORITY OVER ANY REAL OFFICIAL EFFORTS to secure the borders and the ports, and interrupt the flow of illegal human traffic.
One of the visible failings of the "War on Terror" propaganda "Op", has been that there is no way to stop anyone who looks, from following the money, and the politcal powers, and seeing who it flows to.
The "war president" has, in the four years since 9/11, become THE LAW. The no bid contracts that "the war" spawned, went to the connected, and the low wage, foreign, parallel work force, continued to receive the needed flow of bodies that maintain and expand the pre-war profits of those who "employ" these lower paid and more easily controlled folks, because the entrances were never blocked, even in a contrived climate of "heightened" security.
Why is it difficult to imagine how much better off economically, everyone who is legally allowed to work in the U.S. would be, if there was only a negligible number of illegal workers available for hire? There would be a stronger middle class, a smaller number living at 130 percent of the poverty level....or less, and much less medicaid and public school expenditures.
But for a relatively few number of well heeled, politically connected folks who hire the illegals and benefit from the savings that result from these hirings, folks who've grown used to larger savings and profits, and a less challenging labor management climate that is a result of the artifical, parallel, discount pool of labor that their money and influence has facilitated and lured across our borders. the entire country could also benefit from a more affluent consumer base, and could extend work visas to more highly skilled potential immigrants from around the globe.
The Americans who refuse to work for the "parallel" work force's readily accepted, $5.15, the ones described above (and dismissed) as:
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.....people who who take things for granted..............
......spending every free moment drinking beer and watching sports.....
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are not the greedy, war profiteering parasites who trade their own dependence on cheap, wage dampening illegal foreign workers for less secure borders and ports. The flow of profits and politcal power is certainly not falling into the hands of Americans who find themselves displaced by the illegal workers. These Americans aren't the ones luring the illegals into the U.S. Aren't the folks who have benefitted from the "war Op", and the parallel labor force, the ones who "take things for granted"?
Isn't the dismissal of the American workers, via condescending and repetitive talking points, part of the smokescreen that those who withdrew their support for the "war president", now more easily "see" through?
How are folks who don't directly benefit financially or through accumulation of increased personal politcal influence, still persuaded, after all this time, to repeat the American worker bashing phrases, and to support an administration and it's war.....and a set of "threats" that never became important enough to their own "authors", to interrupt their main priority of amassing wealth and power?.....They couldn't "let up" even long enough to produce a "pretense" of increased border and port security, or to postpone reflexive politcal "payback" by refraining from selectively "leaking" the war intelligence that they themselves classified to hide their hypocrisy and utter disregard for a policy of avoidance of aggressive war "of choice" and state sponsered torture.
The point is, the American people's government would get to select who is allowed to live and work here.....not, as now, just the few greedy and possibly clueless folks who've grown used to cheap, docile, domestic help, or high profit margin menial laborers to boost their business profits.
Either we really are "at war" and the folks who make money from the "open border and port" status quo, and the politicians who keep it that way for them, and now are pushing to legalize the large parallel work force that has intentionally been attracted and ushered into the country, are undermining our safety and security for the extra profit that their "set up" yields for them, or.....they've conned us out of 11,000 formerly able bodied, sincere and patriotic American troops, and hundreds of billions of dollars.