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Old 04-06-2006, 08:48 AM   #45 (permalink)
kutulu
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Originally Posted by soccerchamp76
Well, I forgot about the sales tax. So toss those percentages out. But the Papa John's nearest my college is 1.45 miles away. For reference, let's say the gas price is $2.50. That is $0.125/mile, and in my case, 18 cents in gas money. But for the sake of argument, let's round up to 50 cents to ass in oil changes/repairs/etc.
Nice fuzzy math. It's a three mile round trip. The federal government set the cost at 40.5 cents/mile. Therefore, he's LOSING 21.5 cents if it's only a $1 delivery charge. (acutally, since you rounded to 50 cents, he's losing almost 50 cents on your trip)

Maybe you don't believe that the actual cost is that high. Do you want numbers to back it up?

Car
$16,000
120,000 miles total life (at this point most cars turn to shit, which for someone who deliveres pizza full time is about every two years)
$0.13/mile

Insurance
$300.00/month (assuming he's under 25 and has a PERFECT record)
4,000 miles/month
$0.08/mile

Gas
$2.50/gallon
25 mpg
$0.10/mile

Maintenance
$1,400.00/year (16 oil changes at $25 each, tires every year, transmission service, brake job plus $300 extra for other shit. This is bare minimum. If you actually followed the guidelines in your manual it would a lot more)
48,000 miles/year
$0.03/mile

That's 34 cents per mile using very conservative numbers. You can easily double maintenance costs, increase insurance costs, and drop fuel economy to 20 miles per gallon.

You are located 1.45 miles away so it's a 2.9 mile round trip. Therefore it costs him 98.6 cents for the round trip. Damn I hope he doesn't spend that 1.4 cents all at the same place.

Remember, most places will go about 2-3 miles in each direction so the total round trip can be up to 8-12 miles if you live in the corner of the delivery area. Therefore, the cost can be up to $2.72 - $4.08 per trip. On those orders he's in the hole for $1.72 - $3.08 before he gets a "tip". For this reason, a delivery charge either needs to be assesed on a per mile basis (which is too difficult to do for each customer) or large enough to cover the average cost of delivery. Therefore, $2 is quite common now.

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Originally Posted by soccerchamp76
So the driver is receiving already a $1.00 tip in the form of an automatic charge.
Have you read anything I wrote? It's his COST FOR DOING BUSINESS. Money that covers expenses (which is exactly what a delivery charge is) is NOT a tip. It doesn't do anything for him except make it so he's able to work.

These are things to think about when deciding what to tip. Obviously it's a big issue to you that someone should be able to make a living delivering food to you. Just pick it up yourself. You won't be bitter about having to pay anything extra and you won't be fucking up some driver's day.
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