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Old 04-05-2006, 11:43 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Redjake
I just can't grasp ahold of the whole "meant to die" ideology.
Basically what guccilvr's talking about, as I mentioned earlier, is the belief in Fate- that all events are predetermined. Even if he only applies fate to death, it still creates a solid enough argument, in my opinion- if you believe in predetermination and fate.

What most of you are doing is taking the notion of "your time to die" and insisting that there's no such thing- ignoring that, by definition, fate says exactly when you will die and exactly how it will be arranged. Of course, you don't know it ahead of time- but if you believe in fate, you are essentially giving up control over your mortality and acknowledging that when fate's predetermined plan happens upon you, that is when you will die.

This has nothing to do with being "meant" to die. That would imply intellligence in deisgn behind the predetermination, which would mean a deity- and that's not what he's saying.

I believe he is simply saying that everyone dies- and there is a plotted time and place for every death to occur. He's saying that everyone's death is already configured, and therefore any actions he takes to minimize his chances of death at any given time are fruitless- partly because no one can know when death comes, and partly because you will not be able to escape the time of your predetermined death, no matter what you do.

(I hope that's about right, gucc. lol)
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