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Originally Posted by willravel
I need to specify something: complete gun ban = nationwide gun ban, at least to me. Also, you have a very pesimistic view towards disarming criminals. I'll bet you that if someone were to really apply themselves, they could find an illegal arms dealer (someone who sells guns from their trunk). With that person, one could find a supplier and thus cut off one of the many arms supliers to criminals. While there may not be a way to completly stop the problem, there are certianally ways to slow the flow of guns to the streets. Wouldn't that be worth a try?
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Absolutely its worth a try. At least it would be a welcome change to fighting crime instead of banning ownership.
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Originally Posted by willravel
nezmot and I are in agreement that these stats don't really give a lot of support to your argument. A 60% is a D-, and 40% is an F. Are there comparitiable statistics about how other forms of defence score with convicted felons? Are there statistics about defensive home measures such as bars on windows and security doors? Are there statistics about tasers, aerosols, and other nonlethal weapons? How about big dogs? Without a comparison to other options, there really is no function to your statistics.
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There are but I will have to get them together and post them later after work. Defensive home measures are not 'bad' or worthless. It's just that they are not enough. Personally, I don't think there are ever 'enough' safety and security measures, but thats just me. home security is one thing, but its after those are breached that is an issue. Tasers, sprays, and nonlethal weapons require very close contact and, as such, are not as safe as something used from a considerable distance. They are also not as effective as lethal weapons. Big dogs are great, for alarm systems. They are not so great at protection. I know this from personal experience as MY big dogs only dangerous attributes are its tail (that might knock you out if it hit you) and its tongue, by licking you to death.
Your sentiment of sparing life is admirable, but concerning people who care so little about life that they have no problem killing 85 year old grandmothers and 1 year old children, it is totally unwarranted. It is these types of violent and dangerous people that should be exterminated at every opportunity.