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Old 04-05-2006, 09:39 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Not I. Law enforcement will NEVER be able to 'fix' the problem. All they can do is enforce the laws. The reason they are unsuccessful is because the rest of the wheels of justice do not punish criminals the way they should.
Those wheels of justice are the failures that I speak of. I am well aware of the function of alw enforcement (thus the word "enforcement"). I would suggest that the legislature and judicial branches have a lot to do with the problems in gun control, and that those out ther like you who seem to have an appretication, familiarity, and knowledge of guns and their various functions and effects should take action in doing what you can to make sure that guns don't end up in the wrong hands. I will do what I can, but I do not have a lifetime of experience with guns like you do. I've only fired a gun once, and it was at a friends ranch. I do not have experience or training.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
and yet a complete gun ban has not worked for D.C. or chicago. There will never be a way to stop bad people from acquiring a gun, never. The only thing that can prevent most crime from bad people with guns will be good people being allowed to carry one for their defense.
I need to specify something: complete gun ban = nationwide gun ban, at least to me. Also, you have a very pesimistic view towards disarming criminals. I'll bet you that if someone were to really apply themselves, they could find an illegal arms dealer (someone who sells guns from their trunk). With that person, one could find a supplier and thus cut off one of the many arms supliers to criminals. While there may not be a way to completly stop the problem, there are certianally ways to slow the flow of guns to the streets. Wouldn't that be worth a try?
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criminals are not afraid of the police, in fact, they are more afraid of their victims being armed. 60% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they knew the victim was armed. 40% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim might be armed.
nezmot and I are in agreement that these stats don't really give a lot of support to your argument. A 60% is a D-, and 40% is an F. Are there comparitiable statistics about how other forms of defence score with convicted felons? Are there statistics about defensive home measures such as bars on windows and security doors? Are there statistics about tasers, aerosols, and other nonlethal weapons? How about big dogs? Without a comparison to other options, there really is no function to your statistics.
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