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Originally Posted by pan6467
But if you do not "advertise" with signs, you have gun people coming in saying "well you have no signage up." So it's a catch 22.
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which is why texas made it law that unless there is a very specific sign posted (it details and shows a picture of whats required) then concealed carry is not prohibited. They also added that IF a private property owner (store, church, etc) is not posted properly and then notices you carrying, all they have to do is ask you to leave. The request is considered proper notice and if you do not leave, you are then considered to be trespassing.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
As for people shooting where guns are not allowed. IT doesn't matter if the sign is there or not, and I seriously have issues with the argument, "if I were allowed to carry a gun in there, that wouldn't happen." People want to make statements when they do those mass shotings, I seriously doubt they care if there are other people there armed.
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There are always exceptions Pan, MOST people looking to make a statement will try to make the biggest statement they can, and that means going to a place where people are going to be unarmed.
I had planned on replying to all of your points, but I don't see the point. No disrespect intended to you Pan, but you have an extremely low regard for the capabilities of people. I've learned that theres just no argument that can combat that except experiencing it for yourself.
Although, in regards to your san francisco point. Only 58% voted for that ban, how do their rights get to supercede the other 42%?