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Old 03-27-2006, 02:28 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Okay then. I didn't really want to open up that little Pandora's box, but I'm in an honest mood today.
thanks. finally somebody to lay it out so that we don't constantly wonder WTF?

so, in the spirit of hands across the borders, I will not ignore what you have attempted to state, and try honestly to respond to your points.

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Originally Posted by leftwingx

Right, there are lots of folks from Toronto I know personally that live and work in Calgary. If you ask the majority of them, the general idea is they are living in a backwater red-necked town. It's probably short-term stay and it's probably for the money. So why don't they like Calgary? 20% because of Alberta's hype and 80% because it is *not* Toronto.
Yup you're right. I met more than one. They are embarrassing. On the other side of the coin, I meet ex-torontonians who live in Calgary or Vancouver, and they are rabid in their dismissal of Ontario in general. Almost a converted hate for some reason that I cannot fathom. At any rate, there are plenty of towns big and small closer to toronto which can fit the bill for being a backwater, but there are also a lot of people from Calgary or Vancouver in the GTA for the Money, and cannot stand the hype of Ontario, and cannot stand that Toronto is *not* Vancouver. I hear it all the time: too hot, to spread out, too polluted, not enough mountains, no snow, too much snow.

I do know how I feel about being in Canada though. While on a vacation out west, I spent time in Seattle and area. When I returned to BC, I really felt that sense of relief that I had returned home.


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Leaf fans are hockey fans true, but still in love with the centre of the universe.
It's perspective. If you like where you live, then what of it? It's a shame that it has to be dragged through the mud by a skewed media.


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The stories that leak out of Toronto about the fabled Blue and White is often painfully skewed and never seems to come with a big enough shovel.

heh. can't blame fans for being "homers" what else have we gotten lately? In my defence, i have never jumped off the bandwagon. I have been resolute in my support of the team, but suffer the angst of inadequacy. I have not been to a game since the team moved to the ACC. First, I am upset at the loss of MLG, and secondly, I am not rich enough to attend a game. I enjoy my 8 year old's ball hockey games immensely more.


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Toronto has all the population, right? Well excellent. The Leafs will always get the 7:00 pm slot on HNIC unless they're on the West coast. The rest of the Canadian teams take turns on Saturday nights - the Flames probably only get 2/3 of their Saturday games aired. Is that fair? No, and it shouldn't be - if the Leafs get the majority of the viewership then they should get the best coverage. However, don't expect the rest of the Canadian hockey fans to be happy about it.
I agree. I don't expect anybody to be happy if their teams suffer in coverage. I was under the impression that coverage was regional. Like I said, while living in Vancouver (admittedly 1980, 1984, timeframe) If I wanted to watch the Leafs, I had to tune in at 5 PM, otherwise it was all Canucks. All the time. For which I was grateful. I love those Canuckleheads...

But I had no idea that other teams were taking a hit so that the mediocre Leafs could be aired. How could I know, unless somebody speaks up (like you)?

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It's the arrogance that no one can stand, not so much the team. I loved watching the NYR's get their asses kicked season after season while they vainly tried to purchase a Stanley Cup. Same idea.

you say arrogance. well, again, I don't get it. (see arguments above for homerism) and part of it may be assumptions that we all get the same treatment from the media for broadcasting games.

I think that the award for arrogance should go to the Sens.

However, I see that you took umbrage to my little quip about the founding of HNIC. (*sigh*).

While I meant it in the light hearted manner of the tone of my previous (booster-ish) post, I put that there, because that actually is the reason that HNIC was started. NOT that that is any reason for it to continue that way ...
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