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Originally Posted by rlbond86
Of course, what constitutes all-powerful? Can God violate the laws of physics (presumably the ones he created himself)? Can God make 2+2=5? Can God kill himself?
There has to be a certain line that even God cannot cross.
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The arguments always seemed ridiculous to me. God represents the prime mover yet think of him with respect to natural laws? To think of him in that perspective seems superfluous. Of course, there are arguments against it. Simple ones even. But, I don't really understand the premise of arguing these kind of concepts to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Da Munk
I also find it hard to believe that a god could at once give humans free will and have planned out all that has and ever will be. Either could be true, but I don't see the two as reconcilable with each other.
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This is a concept that is tough to deal with especially given the concept of time. I don't think it is nearly as tough to address as it is to comprehend. One reason is because of time. Remember time is relative to us. It's a man-made concept. So, think of time as the perceived differentiation from one action to the next. In actuality, all events have already occurred. However, we cannot experience all action at once, therefore we invented the concept of time (the distance between two actions). Therefore, in a way, you could say that we do have free will. However, all action has already occurred. Therefore, while we do have a free will within the constraints of space and time, all things have already occurred. Therefore, it is not necessarily free will in a mechanism that we can understand. Or at very least, have incredible difficulty grasping.
My biggest problem has always been the concept of God and evil. If we, created in God's image, how do we have free will? I mean, free will implies the ability to do evil. By definition, God does not. Of course, I found a conclusion to satisfy my battle with this issue and most issues.