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Justsomeguy · 03-23-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by analog

Since it's been brought to attention that I myself, the OP, am a Moderator, I'll go ahead and just answer to this directly.

Thousands of people die every day. If you really want to go toe-to-toe for tragedy, here you go: A tragic death is an infant who dies from malnourishment, or lack of medical care, because they had the misfortune of being born into a poor family. A tragic death is an innocent person murdered due to an act of violence and rage. A tragic death is your mom, dad, wife, husband, son, daughter, brother, sister, girlfriend, boyfriend, fiancee, best friend, etc., being struck down in a random incident due to the stupidity of another, such as drunk driving. Those, and only when examined individually, are tragedies.

A person dying by no fault but their own, doing something completely avoidable and incredibly stupid- on top of the fact that certain personal limitations of theirs compound the stupidity of doing such a thing... in my opinion, is not a tragedy.

Avoidable 'accidents' you bring upon yourself are not accidents at all, they're unfortunate inevitabilities- if you do something mortally stupid enough, you will likely die from such actions, and that's all there is to it.

I'd also like to add that when i formed this thread, I did so with the utmost care for the personal feelings this issue may cause, specifically saying i'd punish people who made light of the situation. I don't believe anyone has made fun of this topic, and have only stated their opinions that she died in a stupid, avoidable way.

I'm sorry if something struck a cord- but this is the reality of life, and the world around all of us. It's not callous or uncaring, it's just the way it is.

I just re-read and saw that you, yourself, state that mocking the death of some people is ok, but this is not. Well that's bullshit. You can't have it both ways. To begin with, this isn't mockery- it's pointing out the careless stupidity of the person who died. At best, the mockery is invoking the Darwin Awards, and I may give you that- but if you say this is not ok and some others are, then you're really just passing moral judgment for us all to follow, and to that I say: Having morals = good... forcing your morals onto others = not so good.

First, this really has nothing to do with morals. It has to do with ethics. Completely different.

Also, I never commented that mocking a particular death is okay. I said people can accept certain situations. A child (yes, an 18 year old is still a child in the U.S.) getting killed in this way is not accepted easily by very many people unless your an extremist with a skewed perspective of reality.

Next, I want to comment on your attack on my comments. Let me say that such an action by someone in a somewhat authoritative is truely pathetic. It undermines any legitimate statement you could have made. A simple of "I'm sorry if the posted offended someone," followed by an explanation of the post would have been sufficient. However, a defense is ridiculous. Let me just say that you took the low road, and I wouldn't want you to aid in my community.

Finally, let me comment on your definition of a tragedy. You're comment mimics that of someone who has never really experienced reality. You can argue semantics for the rest of your life. However, death, even in negligence, can be just as tragic as the conditions you described. Just ask mothers who lost their children due to stupid things there kids did.