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Old 03-22-2006, 09:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Thank you all for so many replies!

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Originally Posted by rainheart
Ultimately, aversion to established rules should depend on:
1) Your personal views
2) How well the rules fit with your personal views

So, what are your personal views? And why do you hold those views? And what criticisms are there of those views? That might help you explain it.
Thank you for this. I hadn't broken it down into this level of granularity, and it clarified why I distaste a great deal of authority -- my personal views are quite different than the majority on what is truly a crime against society or humanity. Things like reverse-engineering, breaking copy protection or gaining "unauthorized" access to unsecure systems. I have a more liberal approach to these than the authorities who enforce the rules regarding them. Likewise, I don't consider speeding a "crime," as long as their an effort to maintain safety is demonstrable by the defendant. However, our police officers and law systems disagree with this -- perhaps this is something that is attached to my personality rather than my age (or as other posters claim, my maturity) whereas other things will change with age.

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Originally Posted by Suave
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I'd quote the well-stated parts of your post, but I don't want to just quote the whole post.

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Originally Posted by analog
There's a difference between the notion of (rightfully) questioning authority, and the knee-jerk rallying against authority because a lack of maturity is causing a lack of civility.
I don't react to authority simply because it IS authority, but because I disagree with their policies or enforcement of those policies. Similarly, I'd never react without a sizeable amount of civility .. I do believe my signature.

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Originally Posted by Carno
Wow. You're going to have a difficult life if you continue thinking you're so much better than everyone else. Also, how in the hell did you link being pissed about having dumb teachers into "fuck authority!"? That makes no sense to me.
You seem to have been "vehemently averse" to my post, based on your tone; but I'd like to clarify since you missed it in my first post. Teachers were (and are) an authority figure. Said authority figure was ignorant about the technology which they regulated. Therefore, I disliked their authority to regulate technology they knew very little about. Much like my anger at policiticians who pass laws like the DMCA without any direct understanding of technology today or how the software industry even works.

And in regards to "Wow. You're going to have a difficult life if you continue thinking you're so much better than everyone else." -- could you clarify? I never said "everyone," but the majority -- yes. And why would knowing that I'm better than them make my life difficult? If anything, it should make my life easier. This gives me the ability to know who I can trust with important tasks, and who I cannot. If I were disregarding others because they were lesser than me, that would be one thing -- but simply acknowledging it? I'm curious to see how you could defend this?

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Originally Posted by roachboy
simply equating a tendency to resist authority with immaturity is the equivalent of equating more skilled and wholesale submission to authority for its own sake with maturity. both are ridiculous.
Quoted for truth. And for once, I understood the majority of your post. Thanks.

To those of you who cited the potentially valid idea that this is related to maturity rather than factors, such as age and personality, how do you define maturity?
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