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host · 03-19-2006, 09:18 AM

You should have posted only the link to the nytimes article, not the entire text. After seven days, the article becomes inaccessible to the non-paying public.

Then....out of sight, out of mind!

Many of the original articles that I've posted on these threads are no longer available for public viewing, or are difficult to locate and reference to their originally published sources. A few can be retrieved at truthout. org, but if they are linked from "there", they are reflexively "tarred" with the dreaded "guerilla op-ed" label, discredited merely by association.

Even in this forum, undocumented chit-chat, passed off as legitimate and accurate argument, seems to be an adequate way to contribute to political discussion. The problem for me is that it isn't enough. It's almost always uninformed or underinformed opinion. The quality of the discussion and the accuracy, descends to a level below what I observe, for example, on the sexual advice and technique threads found elsewhere on TFP.

It doesn't only happen here, it's a problem that affects the entire opinion shaping process in the U.S. Talking points, political rhetoric, mixed with a foundation of prejudices, work their "magic" by turning out masses of folks who earnestly believe that they know WTF they are talking about.

The problem is that the opposite is true, and "they" vote for a guy who touts Jay-zuss as his "favorite philosopher", and then pursues policies of aggressive war, torture, and other crimes against humanity, and against the constitution that he took an oath to uphold.

The only way, IMO, to present the nytimes article above, accompanied by the comments that you made, roachboy....on a politcal forum, especially considering that the article will "disappear" in a week...is the way you did it.

03-19-2006, 09:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
host Banned	You should have posted only the link to the nytimes article, not the entire text. After seven days, the article becomes inaccessible to the non-paying public. Then....out of sight, out of mind! Many of the original articles that I've posted on these threads are no longer available for public viewing, or are difficult to locate and reference to their originally published sources. A few can be retrieved at truthout. org, but if they are linked from "there", they are reflexively "tarred" with the dreaded "guerilla op-ed" label, discredited merely by association. Even in this forum, undocumented chit-chat, passed off as legitimate and accurate argument, seems to be an adequate way to contribute to political discussion. The problem for me is that it isn't enough. It's almost always uninformed or underinformed opinion. The quality of the discussion and the accuracy, descends to a level below what I observe, for example, on the sexual advice and technique threads found elsewhere on TFP. It doesn't only happen here, it's a problem that affects the entire opinion shaping process in the U.S. Talking points, political rhetoric, mixed with a foundation of prejudices, work their "magic" by turning out masses of folks who earnestly believe that they know WTF they are talking about. The problem is that the opposite is true, and "they" vote for a guy who touts Jay-zuss as his "favorite philosopher", and then pursues policies of aggressive war, torture, and other crimes against humanity, and against the constitution that he took an oath to uphold. The only way, IMO, to present the nytimes article above, accompanied by the comments that you made, roachboy....on a politcal forum, especially considering that the article will "disappear" in a week...is the way you did it. Last edited by host; 03-19-2006 at 09:58 AM..