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Originally Posted by shakran
OK. So 1) you proved my point. I can buy it from a private owner. and 2) you proved my point again. We're talking about law abiding people here. It's rather unlikely that they're not going to pass a background check. So it's STILL easy.
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If they PASS a background check, why is there an issue?
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Originally Posted by shakran
Nothing, but then this shooting doesn't have much with CCW laws either. He came in. He'd have gotten the first guy for sure because I don't know of a whole lot of gun owners who are psychics and could have sensed that he would shoot. He'd probably get the second guy too since his gun's already out and targeting while the citizen Rambos are busy pulling their guns. The fact that he's shooting two guns at once means while he's killing the first two, he's also wounding the other two. The third guy that died was the gunman because he shot himself. So, the citizen Rambos would have accomplished precisely dick. And in fact they might have killed or wounded a few more people in the confusion.
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So instead of allowing people the ability to defend themselves, or others, we'll just put up with the many deaths that a criminal will cause until our neighborhood police get done with their coffee and donuts and decide to come and arrest him? Do me a favor, stay out of my neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by shakran
Well great. Like I said, let's arm EVERYone! Let's give the kids guns too! We could even give girls pink guns with glitter on 'em so they'd be more likely to carry 'em. We can't have defenseless kids can we?
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I love the last ditch 'lets protect the kids' attempt. Nobody is talking about letting juveniles arm themselves, however, if people took some responsibility and actually TAUGHT their kids how to respect the use of a gun and be responsible about it instead of the 'guns are evil' crap, we might have less violence out there.