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pig · 03-15-2006, 05:18 PM

roach, i guess i was looking at a difference in the people i've seen posting to this thread, and the people who are probably behind "male reproductive rights" as a national movement. My fault - I actually forgot this was a "politics" thread...I wandered in off "new posts," etc. I was thinking in terms of including many of the people discussing the underlying issue of theoretical men's reproductive rights, and not focusing on the practical politics of the situation. As I said, in the end-game analysis at present time, I agree with your position. I think.

Basically, I agree that as a national movement, given present circumstances, this is bound to be predominantly be used as an tool to prevent abortions in a de facto sense. I don't think that all the members or supporters of said movement will necesarily be of that persuassion, but I agree that that's how it would be used.

I find these issues interesting because I find the post-feminist reckoning to be interesting. As our society hopefully tries to adjust to a notion of respecting gender differences without forcing them into literal equality, I think these types of issues are bound to come up. In theory, I believe males and females should have equal say - but there's a practical barrier to that realization. I guess if we could figure out how to make erections last into our 90's, we should be able to perfect external pregnancy. Maybe if this issue, not the political side of it so much, but the masculine desire to have more reproductive choice, actually gains significant headway the $$$ will go into making that reality.

So, in temporary conclusion, if the woman ends up with the slightly shorter straw on this, I suppose one might view it as karmic turnabout-is-fair-play.

The only situation I could see where I might sway on that would be if there was some sort of written contract regarding children. Even then, I'm not sure I could give over given present circumstances.

I have a question for some of our less sexually traditional members: how does this work on the swinger scene. If you're having completely casual sex, and a girl becomes pregnant. What are the in-crowd ground rules on that sort of thing?

03-15-2006, 05:18 PM	#129 (permalink)
pig pigglet pigglet Location: Locash	roach, i guess i was looking at a difference in the people i've seen posting to this thread, and the people who are probably behind "male reproductive rights" as a national movement. My fault - I actually forgot this was a "politics" thread...I wandered in off "new posts," etc. I was thinking in terms of including many of the people discussing the underlying issue of theoretical men's reproductive rights, and not focusing on the practical politics of the situation. As I said, in the end-game analysis at present time, I agree with your position. I think. Basically, I agree that as a national movement, given present circumstances, this is bound to be predominantly be used as an tool to prevent abortions in a de facto sense. I don't think that all the members or supporters of said movement will necesarily be of that persuassion, but I agree that that's how it would be used. I find these issues interesting because I find the post-feminist reckoning to be interesting. As our society hopefully tries to adjust to a notion of respecting gender differences without forcing them into literal equality, I think these types of issues are bound to come up. In theory, I believe males and females should have equal say - but there's a practical barrier to that realization. I guess if we could figure out how to make erections last into our 90's, we should be able to perfect external pregnancy. Maybe if this issue, not the political side of it so much, but the masculine desire to have more reproductive choice, actually gains significant headway the $$$ will go into making that reality. So, in temporary conclusion, if the woman ends up with the slightly shorter straw on this, I suppose one might view it as karmic turnabout-is-fair-play. The only situation I could see where I might sway on that would be if there was some sort of written contract regarding children. Even then, I'm not sure I could give over given present circumstances. I have a question for some of our less sexually traditional members: how does this work on the swinger scene. If you're having completely casual sex, and a girl becomes pregnant. What are the in-crowd ground rules on that sort of thing? __________________ You don't love me, you just love my piggy style