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Originally Posted by docbungle
Disagree. It's our child, not hers, and any decision making needs to work within that understanding. We agreed together to have it, we went ahead and did it, and now it is happening and it is both of ours. She shouldn't get to take any more ownership than me at this point. She is the one carrying the child because, well, that's just how nature works. That in no way should give her the right to decide on an abortion after we've gotten to this point.
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you're arguing something that isn't really being discussed. how often do you really think a woman purposely aborts a planned pregnancy? i'd bet that it's near zero (not including health reasons). people don't abort planned pregnancies. they abort accidental ones. and if it's an agreement to have it, then it wasn't an accident.
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And neither can a woman, short of being raped.
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a woman can have preganancy forced on her when an accident happens and she can't get an abortion (either abortions is illegal, she can't afford one, ca't afford to get there, is intimidated from getting one, etc).
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I find the whole abortion fiasco to be ridiculous. Why are so many abortions needed? Because people are irresponsible with their bodies. That's why.
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if you think abortions from people being irresponsible is ridiculous, do you really think that those people are gonna be responsible enough to raise a child?
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I guess it's good I don't make the laws. We'd have a lot more kids in the world. And a lot more teen mothers living in trailer parks. Sounds bad, I know, but eventually people would start to learn. Learn to change their irresponsible behavior, change the tendencies to have irresponsible sex because they know they can't just bail out by getting a pill from the local Wal-Mart or having someone from planned parenthood scrape out their insides.
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it sounds like you'd rather have a new larger generation of serfs then people raising children in good homes with hope for a good future. and when you consider how many people who had kids as teenagers end up having children who give birth as teens, i think your reasoning that they'd eventually learn better is misguided at best.
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And, going hand in hand with that, I think that a woman taking advantage of a pregnancy by claiming "It's inside me so I can do what I want with it," is just about the most irresponsible thing one can do.
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and why do you think that? it seems to me that it is in her and therefore she can do what she wants. if she had a tumor, would it be her choice about whether or not to get treatment? how is anything that involves her body, her health, her well-being not going to fall under the catergory of "things that she gets to decide how to handle?"