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Originally Posted by nanotech
Yes there were pigs like any other place. But that is not the question. How did Mohammad who was poor and worked as a goat herder and could not read or write travel around the world and learn that it is only the pig that has this worm or disease to humans? He couldn't. That’s one miracle of the Quran.
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It is not only the pig who has a worm or disease that humans can get if they eat it. It's just that Mohammad apparently did not know about the other animals that can give you disease. And pork will not kill you if you cook it properly, just as beef won't kill you if you cook it properly.
Mohammad's ignorance of the disease potential of other meats does not constitute a biblical miracle.
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1- if meat gets to 750 it will burn and cannot be eaten
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That's nice. I didn't say you should cook the meat at 750. I said the oven is capable of reaching 750. My car can go 120mph. That doesn't mean I actually drive it that fast.
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2- God will not risk the death of the people because they know or don't know how to cook.
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Then why didn't he ban all meat? Because if you undercook ANY meat you take the risk of getting sick and/or dying.
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Please see more. Mountains are not only nails. They have one of the purposes to act like nails to hold the lava.
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Easy experiment to prove this wrong. Drive a nail into a glass of water and see how well it does at keeping the water from moving.
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They have other purposes to store water inside.
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Whaaaat? Where did you get this?
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I had a big knowledge of the Quran and Islam before a month ago when I saw these videos. And when I saw them, they were the same as the knowledge I gained before.
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And that's exactly my point. If the videos had said something that disagreed with the Quran, you'd have rejected them out of hand as being false. You have many of us telling you things which do not agree with the quran, but which have withstood decades of rigorous scientific analysis, and are rejecting them out of hand because they do not dovetail with what you read in the Quran. You refuse to acknowledge any new knowledge unless it is not, in fact, new at all but just a retelling of something from the Quran.
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Sorry again, but you’re mistaken. I always search for new information and I do not believe in an untruth.
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Mountains are water-holding nails that keep the world still. You have stated this several times. You believe in untruths.
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I believe in God. He gave me scientific evidence of his existence.
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Sorry, but none of the evidence you have cited qualifies as scientific evidence.
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mathematic formulas because I couldn't sleep knowing what will happen if I die? VOID!? I wanted to know what will happen and I learned.
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Please give us the mathematical formula you used to prove the existance of God and the afterlife.
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WHO ARE YOU? who are you to say that I don't know anything about geology or chemistry?
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Again, you said mountains are nails that store water and keep the world still. That's pretty clear evidence right there.
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I know more than you and I loved these in education and understood how to work with them
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But the problem is, what you know is not true.
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and made a few little formulas of my own,
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You cannot have a hypothesis, and then make up the evidence, and then claim it's all true. This is what separates you from the scientifically minded. If we have a hypothesis, we search for evidence to support or reject it. If you have a hypothesis, you search for evidence only to support it, ignoring any evidence that rejects it. And as you've just indicated, if you can't find that evidence, you dream up a "formula" that supports it.
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Mountains have one of the purposes as nails. That’s one of the purposes.
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No, it is not.
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Even if supposedly all worms and egg worms die at 160 degrees Did they have thermometers in the old days?
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And I don't have a thermometer when I cook a pork chop either, but I haven't died yet because I cook it with enough heat for enough time.
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Why would a man with a family and kids eat pork that can kill him or his kids. Because, he "thinks" that he boiled it enough to have no worms.
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Unless you're a vegetarian, you must answer the same question. What if you get undercooked meat which is not pork? You too could die and/or kill your family. Why would you do this? I'll give you a hint: You know how to cook beef to the point where it will not harm you.
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Do you think God will tell them in the Quran to buy thermometers and make sure its 160 degrees Fahrenheit? and the use a formula, F= 9/5 *C + 32?
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No. I think the MEN who wrote the Quran and who would not yet know how to safely cook pork would tell people that God told them not to eat it.
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And how can he be sure by himself that all worms are dead? Would you take the chance of sleeping with someone if you know they have HIV but you have a condom? What if the condom was not 100% fool proof?
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Again apples and oranges. I can't cook my sexual partner (well. . not without going to jail anyway). But if I COULD cook her, it would kill off the HIV and the sex would be safe. . if a bit crispy. . .
I can cook the pork to the point where it is not dangerous.
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Of course you can fully burn it and then the pig will have all the worms dead.
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Maybe I'm just a better cook than you are, but I'm perfectly capable of cooking pork to an internal temperature that's safe without burning it
