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Old 03-13-2006, 06:16 AM   #67 (permalink)
AngelicVampire
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Kinda posted before (was wondering over the last few days when this would appear, didn't want to start a 2nd thread of my own) Abortion: A Father's Rights

I stand for a legal abortion (legal not physical) and the option (at the mothers consent) to allow her to "incubate" the baby (for some financial reward decided by them/courts) and it become the sole responsibility of the father. Again if this option is taken neither side can back out, the guy is going to be a father and the mother will have no rights to the child.

A legal abortion could easily be implemented by having a form you sign with your partner (thus acknowledging that they are aware of your non-desire), if you wish to remove yourself from this you and partner can again turn up and sign to remove yourselves. Something akin to 6 months from the date you are informed that your partner is pregnant/with child. This is purely a legal sense, you have no right to visit the child, your name is not on its birth certificate and you are not financially responsible for it.

Of course you cannot force the woman to have an abortion however you should have equal rights to back out at that time.

A lot of people argue that men have choices, condoms, abstinance, vasectomy however all of these end at conception (vasectomies are not 100% reliable) when you lose all choice, speaking to many women (had this arguement with my boss's wife, several co-workers and friends) they seem to feel that this is fair, the man had a choice up till then now its the woman's choice since its her body. This does seem logically to be sensible however it does open men up to abuse (semen remain viable in the mouth/condom and it has been done in the past). Similarly for rape victims (men can be raped), a 12 year old (iirc) was raped by his baby sitter and was then responsible for child support because it was his child?

Father's should have the same rights as mothers, possibly implemented differently but with the same net legal effect. The arguement that the child's needs come first is imo a non-issue, if both parties had abided by their agreements there would be no child... similarly if my mobile phone provider changes my contract I can opt out with no penalty, a similar idea should apply.

Off topic but relevant should women be albe to find out sperm doners details and force them to pay child support? (in some cases the male is essentially a sperm doner but is implanting directly rather than via external means).

Some masculinism sites (looks far better as feminism than the male version... meh)
Choice4Men Website
UK Men's Movement

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