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Sweetpea · 03-09-2006, 02:30 PM

from a tfp male member: who i think added some great thoughts.
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"I feel compelled to stick up for my gender a little bit here. On the off chance that Supple Cow was 100% serious in her post, I can relate that at least one man (myself) doesn't create media stereotypes or go for women solely because I am afraid my penis will get soft. I'm attracted to people I'm attracted to, period. Sometimes they match conventional ideas of beauty and sometimes they don't.

I think women put more pressure on themselves and each other than men do... I'll offer a couple of points of evidence. Magazines like Maxim and Stuff certainly present an unrealistic picture of a man's "ideal woman". On the other hand, even this presentation makes it clear that the picture painted is purely one of fantasy. I don't think that men read those things and honestly respond by expecting people that they know to be like those women any more than they look at Motor Trend and feel that their Nissan Maxima isn't a good car because it isn't like a Forumula 1 racer. On the other hand, women's magazines such as Vogue, Cosmo, etc. are filled with unrealistic portrayals of women that are more dangerous in that they are shown as a depiction of the "ideal woman". This image isn't just carried in the advertising either, look at the articles. A magazine that pressents tips on how to be that perfect woman is obviously propagating the idea that this ideal is one that women should adopt.

Consider the portrayals of women in Bond films and "chick flicks". Yeah, the Bond chicks are hot, but they are clearly presented in the same over-the-top manner that Bond himself is shown in. However, Meg Ryan, Reese Witherspoon et al are shown in a way that encourages people to expect that from those that they know in their real lives.

Most (admittedly not all) of the men that I know are capable of separating a fantasy from their expectations of real people. I think we're far more accepting, and often loving, of women's flaws than women themselves are. We love you guys, really..."

03-09-2006, 02:30 PM	#48 (permalink)
Sweetpea Fade out Location: in love	from a tfp male member: who i think added some great thoughts. ______________________________________________________________ "I feel compelled to stick up for my gender a little bit here. On the off chance that Supple Cow was 100% serious in her post, I can relate that at least one man (myself) doesn't create media stereotypes or go for women solely because I am afraid my penis will get soft. I'm attracted to people I'm attracted to, period. Sometimes they match conventional ideas of beauty and sometimes they don't. I think women put more pressure on themselves and each other than men do... I'll offer a couple of points of evidence. Magazines like Maxim and Stuff certainly present an unrealistic picture of a man's "ideal woman". On the other hand, even this presentation makes it clear that the picture painted is purely one of fantasy. I don't think that men read those things and honestly respond by expecting people that they know to be like those women any more than they look at Motor Trend and feel that their Nissan Maxima isn't a good car because it isn't like a Forumula 1 racer. On the other hand, women's magazines such as Vogue, Cosmo, etc. are filled with unrealistic portrayals of women that are more dangerous in that they are shown as a depiction of the "ideal woman". This image isn't just carried in the advertising either, look at the articles. A magazine that pressents tips on how to be that perfect woman is obviously propagating the idea that this ideal is one that women should adopt. Consider the portrayals of women in Bond films and "chick flicks". Yeah, the Bond chicks are hot, but they are clearly presented in the same over-the-top manner that Bond himself is shown in. However, Meg Ryan, Reese Witherspoon et al are shown in a way that encourages people to expect that from those that they know in their real lives. Most (admittedly not all) of the men that I know are capable of separating a fantasy from their expectations of real people. I think we're far more accepting, and often loving, of women's flaws than women themselves are. We love you guys, really..." __________________ Having a Pet Will Change Your Life! Looking for a great pet?! Click Here! "I am the Type of Person Who Can Get Away With A lot, Simply Because I Don't Ask Permission for the Privilege of Being Myself"