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Old 03-09-2006, 10:36 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by stevo
Will, something was uncovered last year that I'm guessing you didn't read. An excerpt goes something like this: http://cryptome.org/alq-terr-man.htm
stevo, four hours before you made the mistake of representing discredited material, exposed in April, 2005 in the "Ricin Terrorist Trial" in the UK as a 2001 US DOJ propaganda "OP", most likely compiled and distributed in the '80's by a US intelligence agency for the benefit of "our side" in the war against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan....

Here is the thread link, and an excerpt.....
(Written in response to Mojo_PeiPei "pulling" the same "material" out of his "hat"....or from....???)
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...62#post2022762

<i>Sorry to bring news that your "smokinggun" was discredited last year in the UK "ricin terrorists" trial. I wrote about it in a <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?p=1751493&highlight=ricin#post1751493">TFP thread</a> that you posted to, but you apparently didn't read the news articles that I linked to... in April, 2005, when it happened...it was well reported in the UK and in the US. The "manual" that you cite, was exposed as a US DOJ misinformation "OP". It was apparently actually compiled in the '80's, possibly by one of our own intelligence agencies....</i>
Quote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/st...585130,00.html
<b>The ricin ring that never was</b>

Yesterday's trial collapse has exposed the deception behind attempts to link al-Qaida to a 'poison attack' on London

Duncan Campbell
Thursday April 14, 2005

......The most ironic twist was an attempt to introduce an <b>"al-Qaida manual"</b> into the case. The manual - called the Manual of the Afghan Jihad - had been <b>found on a raid in Manchester in 2000.</b> It was given to the FBI to produce in the 2001 New York trial for the first attack on the World Trade Centre. But it wasn't an al-Qaida manual. The name was invented by the US department of justice in 2001, and the contents were rushed on to the net to aid a presentation to the Senate by the then attorney general, John Ashcroft, supporting the US Patriot Act.

To show that the Jihad manual was written in the 1980s and the period of the US-supported war against the Soviet occupation was easy. The ricin recipe it contained was a direct translation from a 1988 US book called the Poisoner's Handbook, by Maxwell Hutchkinson.......

.....The most ironic twist was an attempt to introduce an "al-Qaida manual" into the case. The manual - called the Manual of the Afghan Jihad - had been found on a raid in Manchester in 2000. It was given to the FBI to produce in the 2001 New York trial for the first attack on the World Trade Centre. <b>But it wasn't an al-Qaida manual. The name was invented by the US department of justice in 2001, and the contents were rushed on to the net to aid a presentation to the Senate by the then attorney general, John Ashcroft, supporting the US Patriot Act.</b>

To show that the Jihad manual was written in the 1980s and the period of the US-supported war against the Soviet occupation was easy. The ricin recipe it contained was a direct translation from a 1988 US book called the Poisoner's Handbook, by Maxwell Hutchkinson.
Later in April 2005, the British Government forced the Guardian UK to remove the above article from it's website:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04...s_ricin_piece/ and it was later restored.........

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