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Originally Posted by stevo
Will, something was uncovered last year that I'm guessing you didn't read. An excerpt goes something like this: http://cryptome.org/alq-terr-man.htm
And these are the people the left wants to reason with. These are the people we need diplomatic talks with. People that don't believe in diplomacy, but : "The confrontation that Islam calls for with these godless and apostate regimes, does not know Socratic debates, Platonic ideals nor Aristotelian diplomacy. But it knows the dialogue of bullets, the ideals of assassination, bombing, and destruction, and the diplomacy of the cannon and machine-gun." - I'm not making this shit up.
They have told us clearly why they do what they do. We are UNBELIEVERS so we are INFIDELS and we deserve to die. They want to create their islamic state, regain the glory of the caliphate. They have told us this, yet there are still people in this country that think terrorism stems from poverty and descrimination. IF that was true, then al-qaeda's stated goal would be to end poverty and descrimination of muslims world-wide, not to kill all the infidels and create an islamic empire. Until everyone can come to realize this is their stated goal and agenda - the REASON they fight us, the cause of their Jihad, then we will always have a divide in this country.
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Stevo, my best response to this is to ask you to sit down and speak with a muslim about tha above quote: "The confrontation that Islam calls for with these godless and apostate regimes, does not know Socratic debates, Platonic ideals nor Aristotelian diplomacy. But it knows the dialogue of bullets, the ideals of assassination, bombing, and destruction, and the diplomacy of the cannon and machine-gun." The reality, as I understand it, is that there are almost no militant muslims in the world. I've read the Qu'ran several times, and the book preaches respect of other religions ESPICALLY Judism and Christianity (people of the book). Even the most right wing muslims know this to be true. The onyl people who fit into the "we're going to kil the infadels" catagory are maybe a few thousand muslims out of millions and millions. You know what? Other muslims hate them for it. Can you imagine if some Christian started a war because God told him to?
Oh, wait, our president did. Hey, how do you think that makes us look to them? Maybe the same way they look to us!
Also, no one wants a muslim empire. They want a theocratic monarchy at most. The only thing they want is for us to leave. No military presence. No xommercial presence. No industrial presence. It's that simple.