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Originally Posted by willravel
I agree that it's not enough to learn why people do the bad things they do. You need to figure out what it would take to make them stop.
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Will, something was uncovered last year that I'm guessing you didn't read. An excerpt goes something like this:
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Unbelief is still the same. It pushed Abou Jahl- may Allah curse him-and Kureish's valiant infidels to battle the prophet - God bless and keep him - and to torture his companions - may Allah's grace be on them. It is the same unbelief that drove Sadat, Hosni Mubarak, Gadhafi, Hafez Assad, Saleh, Fahed -Allah's curse be upon the non-believing leaders - and all the apostate Arab rulers to torture, kill, imprison, and torment Moslems.
These young men realized that an Islamic government would never be established except by the bomb and rifle. Islam does not coincide or make a truce with unbelief, but rather confronts it. The confrontation that Islam calls for with these godless and apostate regimes, does not know Socratic debates, Platonic ideals nor Aristotelian diplomacy. But it knows the dialogue of bullets, the ideals of assassination, bombing, and destruction, and the diplomacy of the cannon and machine-gun.
The young came to prepare themselves for Jihad [holy war], commanded by the majestic Allah's order in the holy Koran. [Koranic verse:] "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies, and others besides whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know."
I present this humble effort to these young Moslem men who are pure, believing, and fighting for the cause of Allah. It is my contribution toward paving the road that leads to majestic Allah and establishes a caliphate according to the prophecy.
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http://cryptome.org/alq-terr-man.htm
And these are the people the left wants to reason with. These are the people we need diplomatic talks with. People that don't believe in diplomacy, but : "The confrontation that Islam calls for with these godless and apostate regimes, does not know Socratic debates, Platonic ideals nor Aristotelian diplomacy. But it knows the dialogue of bullets, the ideals of assassination, bombing, and destruction, and the diplomacy of the cannon and machine-gun." - I'm not making this shit up.
They have told us clearly why they do what they do. We are UNBELIEVERS so we are INFIDELS and we deserve to die. They want to create their islamic state, regain the glory of the caliphate. They have told us this, yet there are still people in this country that think terrorism stems from poverty and descrimination. IF that was true, then al-qaeda's stated goal would be to end poverty and descrimination of muslims world-wide, not to kill all the infidels and create an islamic empire. Until everyone can come to realize this is their stated goal and agenda - the REASON they fight us, the cause of their Jihad, then we will always have a divide in this country.