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I guess what I'm getting at is that either you believe that somewhere SOMETHING came from nothing or you believe that something is eternal. I have yet to meet someone who believes that ANYTHING at all can be formed from nothing. SOooo that means that all those people who I've met, whether they believe in God or universal consciousness, or are atheist they must have faith that there was something that began the universe or that it has always been and in that case perhaps it will always be. I guess the more I think about it, one either has to have the faith that something out there is eternal OR that something was formed from absolute vacuum/nothingness. Which do you choose? Or do we just ignore this concept and close our minds to what the possible beginnings were for our existence?
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