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Old 03-06-2006, 06:29 AM   #46 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=genuinegirly][QUOTE=analog]Well, it could have been phrased differently. Here's the thing, though:

Based on absolutely nothing, you called the guy a pedophile and basically said his death was deserved. That's really harsh. Neither article mentioned anything about statutory rape, or that it was anything illegal- you made that leap yourself. In the state where it happened, it was a perfectly legal act between what the state recognizes as two consenting adults. Not to mention that pedophilia defined as an attraction to prepubescent children- which a 17 year old most certainly is not.
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I'm sorry, in my state, he is legally considered a pedophile. He would be on the Megan's Law website with a big fat "Rape and illicit acts with a CHILD under the age of 18". Karma says it was coming to him. As it will to anyone else who does this kind of senseless crap.

It's still a tragedy and I feel for his (and her) family.

I've been bothered by the flippancy of many members on the boards in general lately.
Fewer and fewer people take time to think about their responses and to attempt to come up with something poignant that will drive conversation. It's just a bunch of "hey, you're an imbicile and here's why" crap, rather than, "Hey, that's an interesting perspective. Mine differs. Let's talk it out."
I came to expect the first from other discussion boards, I thought I could expect the second from the TFP.


In my eyes, Little Tippler, you were manipulated by an older man, and your life has been lived out differently because of this. Maybe it's just my skewed perspective, but it's a perspective. I know, Little Tippler, that you have every right to think that I am wrong. I would like to hear why. I would like some real dialogue here. I would like the opportunity to gain an open mind about this one.

But the way the current conversation is going, none of that will happen.
I think perhaps, genuinegirly, that this whole issue has hit some sort of sore spot with you. I didn't mean my comment personally at you, though you were implied. You did jump to conclusions, and made a pretty harsh remark about how that guy deserved to die, and if you want to talk about flippancy, well I believe you have been far more flippant in this thread than me. If you take the time, you will notice that I am not one to make flippant remarks on the TFP and usually think my responses out well and try to accomodate other people. I could not refrain from feeling stung by your comment as I have been in a relationship with a man of the same age as the one in this situation.

Again on the topic of flippancy, to say that you actively know something about my personal life without ever having met me or knowing anything about my life, is very presumptuous of you. I have every right to tell you that in my case, you are absolutely wrong, and I regret nothing. My life has not been negatively affected by that relationship in which I was for 3 years. My parents knew him well and aprooved of him. I knew his parents also. What does age have to do with love anyway?

I am sorry if this reply hits a nerve once more, but you have definitely hit a nerve with me by completely assuming things about myself and others when you have no information on the fact to back you up. To say that I was manipulated by someone who was in a serious and trusting relationship with me for years who you know nothing about is extremely rude.

Maybe you should be the one to think out your answers more thoroughly and if you think that by making the following statement initially in this thread:

"Tragic.

cheating pedophiles get what's coming to them...
What I wonder is if it wasn't also rape. "

is an attempt to come up with something poignant that will drive conversation, you must be seriously misguided.
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