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Host. That is one of the best posts I've seen from you... I think, ever.
I will answer your first question.
It would have been moved to Paranoia except I felt that discussing extrenal influnces on the levers of power was a valid topic. I have to admit that I am still on the fence about moving it.
I would like to see the discussion move more to towards what it means when Corporate (and perhaps foreign) interests get their hooks into a candidate. Clearly there is a concern that these interests derail the political process.
What would it take to convince people that it is happening?
Does it matter that it is Bush vs. some imaginary Democrat?
In my mind, I believe the invasion of Iraq was being planned long before Bush took power. It was certainly laid out in The New American Century. Cheney and a group of Oil Industry higher ups were passing around maps of the oil fields in Iraq long before 9/11. These are all documented facts.
To say that Bush is a plant, I think, goes too far. To say that he is working to line the pockets of his wealty friends is not too far. Do I have proof for this, no. Is there enough circumstancial evidence to make Bush and Cheney's administration fail the smell test? Yes.
Ultimately, unless there is a howitzer's worth of smoking guns. Those who view Bush as a good president will not be convinced.
That said, I'd like to hear what those who cry conspiracy think about a situation like this in general. No slings and arrows at Bush in the specific. Just political graft and the potential of actual conspiracy. Let's assume for a moment we have the smoking gun. Would it be enough to make you change your mind? Would you still support an Administration like that?
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- Old Man Luedecke
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