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Old 02-28-2006, 07:06 AM   #58 (permalink)
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well, since the last, relatively nice post appears to have baffled the usual rightwing suspects, let me explain:

this thread has slipped into yet another instance of conservatives setting up and battling straw men.

among the straw men is the right-specific "logic" that has constructed this fantasy they refer to as "liberal" -which in fact means "not us" and only "not us" and as "not us" can slide around from designating centrist democrats and stalinists with equal accuracy--accuracy because what is designated is not in the world that other people know about, but rather is a requirements of conservative ideology, which is held together by fear of a Persecuting Other.

the usage of this "logic"--which you can see for yourself above---almost necessarily involves a total loss of perspective.
generally, when a political debate involves one side wholly surrendering perspective, the debate is over.
so it is here.

a similar problem in the "assessments" of the call to action against the bush admin posted by a small group, which here is not only blown out of all proportion, but which is further interpreted around the empty category "liberal" so that it would appear reasonable for someone like ustwo to slide from stalin to democrats to hallucinations of revolution coming from the left as if, at each moment, he was talking about the same thing---and as if, at each moment, he was talking about anything.


nothing about these interpretations is credible:

that it reflects something like a socially acceptable logic indicates, once again, significant problems with conservative discourse as a political formation.

there is no reason to take these posts seriously----except that the same kind of idiocy obviously motivates people like lindsey graham to call for the administration to crack down on the "domestic fifth column"--but i figure that graham must be confusing the sounds being made by the implosion of the bush administration for political agitation from the left.
if there is anything stalinist in this thread, it comes from the right which, once again, repeats features of "the short course of the history of the bolshevik party" (look it up): incapable of imagining that anything bad can happen as a result of policies initiated by the Party, things that go wrong must be blamed on some outside force--in stalinist world, this was the "hitlero-trotskyiste wrecker" the "saboteur"--in conservativeland, the role of the "saboteur" is filled by the "liberal"....
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