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shakran · 02-27-2006, 06:25 PM

Sorry for not responding earlier. Missed this on the new posts the last time around. . .

those are all great arguments dksuddeth, against the anti-gun lobby. Unfortunately you're directing them at the wrong guy because I am NOT anti gun. I'm sorry if I gave that impression. In fact I own 2 shotguns and a musket (yes, a real musket). I am far from anti gun and I agree with the progun argument that there are just too many guns in the country at this point and getting all of them if we banned them outright would not be possible.

And while I do not favor a ban on guns, that does not mean the constitution necessarilly allows them. For example, there's no ban on sunglasses, even though the constitution does not say we're allowed to have them. Just because the 2nd doesn't mean what YOU want it to mean does not mean we have to ban guns.

What I AM in favor of is much stronger restrictions on who can get a gun and what they have to do to get it. Even if I accepted your premise that the citizenry could defeat a tyrannical government bent on our destruction (I still don't), I'm sure you would agree that not EVERYONE should be included in this "well regulated" "militia" of yours. Give an idiot a gun and he's as likely to shoot you as he is to shoot the enemy.

That's why I advocate restrictions on who can have guns. Obviously no convicted felons, but beyond that, we need to restrict gun ownership to those who have had excellent training and a full psychological evaluation. And yes, I certainly advocate better training than the average cop gets.

http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/ju...tal_Discharge/

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/negligence.html

Just two examples that show cops aren't always as well trained with guns as perhaps they should be. Sorry about the ad in the first, but you can advance the jogbar to the end to skip it.

I dunno about you but I want my neighbor to be a bit better trained than THAT if he's gonna be running around my neighborhood with a gun.

02-27-2006, 06:25 PM	#38 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	Sorry for not responding earlier. Missed this on the new posts the last time around. . . those are all great arguments dksuddeth, against the anti-gun lobby. Unfortunately you're directing them at the wrong guy because I am NOT anti gun. I'm sorry if I gave that impression. In fact I own 2 shotguns and a musket (yes, a real musket). I am far from anti gun and I agree with the progun argument that there are just too many guns in the country at this point and getting all of them if we banned them outright would not be possible. And while I do not favor a ban on guns, that does not mean the constitution necessarilly allows them. For example, there's no ban on sunglasses, even though the constitution does not say we're allowed to have them. Just because the 2nd doesn't mean what YOU want it to mean does not mean we have to ban guns. What I AM in favor of is much stronger restrictions on who can get a gun and what they have to do to get it. Even if I accepted your premise that the citizenry could defeat a tyrannical government bent on our destruction (I still don't), I'm sure you would agree that not EVERYONE should be included in this "well regulated" "militia" of yours. Give an idiot a gun and he's as likely to shoot you as he is to shoot the enemy. That's why I advocate restrictions on who can have guns. Obviously no convicted felons, but beyond that, we need to restrict gun ownership to those who have had excellent training and a full psychological evaluation. And yes, I certainly advocate better training than the average cop gets. http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/ju...tal_Discharge/ http://www.ebaumsworld.com/negligence.html Just two examples that show cops aren't always as well trained with guns as perhaps they should be. Sorry about the ad in the first, but you can advance the jogbar to the end to skip it. I dunno about you but I want my neighbor to be a bit better trained than THAT if he's gonna be running around my neighborhood with a gun.