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Old 02-27-2006, 10:34 AM   #34 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by martinguerre
...but i will note that it's pretty sick to expect a people living under a dictator who is willing to gas his own people to rise up against that same government.
I do expect people living under a dictator who is willing to gas his own people to rise up against that same government. That is what I would do, wouldn't you?
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I don't think that the US bears exclusive responsbility for making this mess. I don't. It's not sane to think that. But it's similarly not sane to deny that we had a hand in arming Saddam. And that capability and support helped him accomplish his evil intents. Did we have a right to confront his evil by invading Iraq?
Yes, we have the right and the obligation to confront his evil by invading Iraq. Leadership comes with great responsibility. There have been far too many occations when we have done nothing to confront evil, or we have waited too long.
If we want to play a secondary role in world leadership, that is o.k. But we can not assume the lead role and then not lead.
Occationally leading requires doing things that are unpleasant and unpopular, but they are things that need to be done.
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Maybe...and that strongly depended on our ability to do so with a positive outcome, something that seems rather in doubt at the moment.
If we lose our resolve the best outcome won't be realized. However, there have already been positive outcomes. In '91 we did not finish the job and now we are paying the price. I admit - I am losing my resolve. If this happens across the board and our nation again fails to finish the job, we will have another price to pay in the future.
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Did we have a responsibility to consider the consequences before giving him support and arms in the conflict against Iran?
Definitively.
I don't understand your logic on this. If we used this logic you come to weird conclusions. Example: If Hitler's mother loved him, nurtured him, supported him, etc., based on that you would hold her responsible, in part, for his actions as an adult? I would not.
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