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Old 02-26-2006, 04:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Simply, the only thing that could bring a person to advocate for a lack of exception in these cases is a willing refusal to see the woman as a person.
Fool them all...you're either asking a question i don't understand or being deliberatly obtuse. Women do commit suicide in the aftermath of rape, this is well known. And i don't think it's at all out of the question to suggest that compelling a woman by the power of the state to keep a pregnancy that starts in rape....might make the difference between life and death in some cases. I'd already outlined that. So what are you asking? For empirical data? There's no such study, for the same reasons that we haven't the data on how many kids survive when you leave them with wolves. Conducting such a study would necessarily entail the damage of participants. Darkly, i suppose we will find out what happens if this law passes.

i've seen a whole lot of the writing on the opposition to a rape exception...and the only way they get the rhetoric there is by completely eliding the woman in the discussion. Such blindness comes at a price...

SirLance...consider also how few rapes are actually convicted. What woman, who by NO fault of her own is raped and lacks proof to convict her rapist. There might be no witnesses, and the woman probably knew her assailant. A whopping 7% of rapes reported to the police result in convictions (And only 40% of all rapes are in fact reported). So what about the legal limbo the vast majority find themselves in? Do we declare that a woman can terminate the rights of the father by accusing rape? Proving it to a lower standard?

What possible due process claim could actually provide the kind of benifit that you assume is required to make this law just? The answer is simply, that it's not possible.

But you say it like it's a matter of course.
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