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Originally Posted by SERPENT7
While not the MOST elitist thing I've ever seen posted here, this comes pretty close.
First, lets talk about the bus versus a car.
In order to get into downtown LA from the 'burbs it takes 4.5 hours, and 3 transfers. (Thats 9 hours in transit, BTW.)
Live near your work, you say.
No. (I hate crime.)
For most americans a car is directly related to your ability to find a good job. If you think i'm kidding, try being late to your job 3 times a week because the buses don't run as predicted. (ALL temp agencies ask if you have RELIABLE PERSONAL transportation. No car, no job.)
Second, some of us don't work 4 hours @ $7 because we have kids that need our time and attention.
I am middle-class, and cannot afford unsubsidised health care.
Consider also that the uninsured rate for any proceedure is often twice the rate hospitals charge insurance companies. So the people that are least likely to be able to afford it are charged higher prices. How fair is that? (Not that anyone said life was supposed to be fair, but still...)
"The irony of the situation is that if I weren't paying for the insurance, and if I weren't working - or even if I were working minimum wage - my son's care would be fully covered on the public's dime. Not only that, but he would be getting a higher level of care than he is currently receiving under the private plan. (I'm hearing that less-severe cases routinely receive 15 - 16 hours of nursing a day, compared with the 8 hours a day that he currently receives.)"-ScottKuma
I was in exactly the same spot when my son got diagnosed with craniosinostosis. I had to get denied Healthy Families, (Middle class-ish sub'd ins.) then apply for medical. (They would cover the proceedure but were going to charge us more than if we just paid it all out of pocket!) So we then had to take all of our paperwork and re-apply to healthy families. (approved!)
"those not enjoying the same access to opportunity"-roachboy
This is the reason i called marvin elitist. It is also why i think Us2 is a little deluded. He talks about hard work, and merit, but (as far as i can tell) does not recognize the fact that it is his birth, quality of education, his whiteness, his gender, and his general health, (IE, His Socio-Economic Status) that has made it possible for him to have something to hand down.
Also, being in favor of taxes does not mean that i trust the government to spend my money more responsibly than I myself would. I simply trust the government to spend your money more responsibly than you would.
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Others have already covered the "trusting the government" section, so I'll leave that one twisting in the wind.
Would you like to know what's quite a bit more elitist than my post? YOURS!!
Unlike literally millions of illegals who come here with basically the shirts on their backs, you're too good to live where they do. You're too good to work at the jobs they do. You're too good to ride the bus like they do. Your kids are more important than their kids are to them. Why is that? Are you better than they because you were born here?
And, because of the above, many of them are likelier to be happier, and more successful, than you. I've seen illegal Mexican and Filipino immigrants carve out quite nice lives for themselves, but none that I have observed did it by complaining, or "trusting the government" to take care of them.
And by the way, I specifically excluded kids with health problems in my post. I guess you missed that.