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Originally Posted by PastorTim
ALLOW ME A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, SINCE SOME HAVE EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN ON MY BEHALF, BASED ON MY LAST POST... and clearly, I wasn't clear enough there!
When I said I might not post any more, I only meant in this particular thread. I'm not sure it would be helpful or add much to the debate -- and the rhetoric has grown considerably since I last posted. I think that's a good thing.
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Actually, I grasped your original meaning. It was that I became concerned after abaya brought it up [Domino effect?
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I also get you when you say you feel there isn't more you could add to the debate and I've felt like that countless times. So no hard feelings there.
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What saddens me is that it sometimes seems some will try to bulldoze their point over and use ad hominem attacks to bolster their argument. I would like to think we can interact with each other without stooping so low. And even if others do I'll try not to.
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I don't know if this refers to me. I'd specifically like to be called out. Again, I have to embrace reality as hard as I embrace my ideals, principles, and values. To deny it, is unforgivable. I'm not going to
sweep anything under the rug to save face.
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Again, I may or may not post IN THIS THREAD again simply because I'm not sure if I have anything productive to add to the discourse. I haven't had time to read and re-read the whole thread, and I'm not sure I could keep up with it all. If I do post again, it may be to try to make a few general observations and perhaps a few specific reactions / refutations.
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Ok, got you loud and clear. I don't think I'll be any more productive either. If you do reply, great. I also feel his thread has had enough debate.
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Originally Posted by Daoust
As a mod you are entitled to do as you wish, alloting the appropriate titles on whom you wish, but if I can speak openly, I have to say I find that somewhat unfair... Does that mean that I'll never become a full member because I share my opinions and speak my mind about where I stand in terms of my faith? Can you explain what you mean by "I feel they would run away if given access"... Do you mean we would become pushy and beligerent because we would be somewhat more "untouchable"?
I feel that if I've been here as long as I have, submitting as many quality posts as the next guy, staying within the guidelines of the TFP, that I should acheive full status just as all the others have... I'm not perfect, I've sometimes posted inappropriately, sometimes tested the limits, etc. but for the most part I've played the game fairly. I guess I just want to be included like everyone else. I want a fair shake...
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Dude, you took tecoyah totally out of context. He literally meant "run away" as in
leave their account, leave TFP. Have you visited OTW [
Off The Wayside] or the
Titty Board? Those areas are not something for everybody, if not provocative. There probably should be an extra [auto?] PM sent to people who donate/non-paying members acheiving full access asking them if they want access to the questionable sections of the TFP. B/c if they unknowingly waltz in there w/o knowing what's going on... it's not going to be pretty.
I remember the first time I visited OTW. Uhhhh.....
.....and I'm still reeling from the effects.
But I'm aware of it now and I'm very used to it. In fact, I tried to get tags implemented there b/c of some quirky titled threads I opened thinkin' one thing and became shocked [
] when it was horribly the opposite [to that of my expectations]...