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Old 02-23-2006, 05:55 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by meembo
I wrote this in another thread, and it seems to apply here. There is an abiding assumption among many of us here IMO that logic reigns supreme, and I reject that. I think logic and faith are two very different and equally strong human characteristics. Love itself is a faith that defies all logic, but I assert that love is what most people aspire to obtain and enjoy more than anything else.
I strangely feel I'm included in this litter. Please, be it as it may, I have lived a long troubled life, IMO, short of committing actual sins. It's a wonder I haven't by now. I am tired, OH so tired of debating religion in any regard. We were made, we should respect life, we should respect the life we were given, and that we should place all women and children on the highest pedestal we can find. PERIOD. Everybody can think whatever they want in terms of creationism after the fact - every has race has their different intrepretation. What you fail to realize, RACE, for instance, is going to played everytime in religion. So many different ethinicities and Americans have the gall to portray him as white??? He can't be black, latino, god for bid Aussie or Asian? Maybe even Indian? Every race believes God to be of a descent of their own if not unhuman but spritual.

I feel like Christianity is overbearing and smothering. And if I'm not apart of the crowd I'm not welcome anywhere. In fact, when "Christians" have met an Athetist, in my viewings, they ALWAYS say "That's ok. Come with us, talk with us, eat with us" but then they say in closing: "We will show you the way". To either enlightenment or a happy path? I don't know.

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Originally Posted by meembo
I'm Christian, and I don't worry if I'm welcome or not! I am disappointed when the "Reject All Religious Faith" trump card is played here to disengage from a discussion. I don't ask for others to believe what I believe, but here and elsewhere I ask for respect for the things I honor in my life.
I sadly do not agree with you thinkin' the TFP is not more than most of the time respecting your beliefs. Rather if disagreement happens occasionally, you're going to have to take it. No one on God's green earth is going to allow you to say your beliefs w/o ONCE challenging you. That is what is so great about people. They took the gift of thought and... REALLY used it! They don't accept things just as they are, or just b/c they're written as fact. But take their life experiences and fomulate opinions and beliefs based on that.

Basically, to expect to NEVER be challenged or disagreed with is a foolhardy concept in itself. And you'd just better understand that before you go any further in discussing "faith". Faith is not fact, it's a belief. W/o discussion there is more ignorance... it's just not voiced.

Oy, caramba.
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