Originally Posted by Martel

I think the problem that most of the people here have with this "game" stuff is when it involves using non-straightforward techniques ("devaluing", dominating conversations/situations/etc) in order to try to achieve some goal then it comes across as being manipulative, and most people find the idea of being manipulated to be unpleasant.

If "game" just means "how you act when you're out in public" then what's the point of calling it "game" and having a bunch of "techniques" and crap? It seems pretty clear to me (and I assume the rest of the people who have a problem with it) that this is crossing the line towards human manipulation in the same vein as agressive corporate marketing.