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Old 02-21-2006, 09:38 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
we already have idiots running around with guns. All one needs to do to confirm that is read the national news and count the gun violence stories. We are already doing all we can to allow non-idiots to carry by requiring federal background checks and training before a license is issued. what more would you like? implant minority report chips in the brain stems so you can preempt someone going off the deep end?

Wow. I wasn't even trying to get a rise out of someone with that one, but if you wanna throw down, here goes.

You have no right to a gun. Only a powerful NRA lobby has given you the ability to get one. After all, they regulate what kind of knife I carry. If it's more than 3" (less in some states) the cops can confiscate it and charge me with a crime. YOU can get an AK-47. I can't even legally carry 4 inch blade. Why? because I don't have the *constitutional* right to carry any sort of knife. And there isn't a knife lobby like the NRA out there, so blade users are out in the cold.

Anyone who says the 2nd amendment gives you the right to a gun is dead wrong. So to answer your question, sure I have the perfect way to do it. Ban gun ownership without intense psychological testing (at the gun buyer's expense). Any strange tendencies, no gun.

Require gun purchasers to take out a large victims insurance policy so that if they do shoot someone at least the medical bills or funeral is paid for. Hell that's not even unfair - I have to take out liability insurance to drive a car. Why should you get to carry a shotgun around without guaranteeing you can pay when you send someone to the hospital with it?

And the 7 day waiting period is crap. If I want to kill you, I'm willing to wait 7 days to do it. Totally useless, especially since it doesn't universally apply. Go buy your gun at a gun show, and it's not hard to find one of those.

Then toughen the criminal laws. Remove the distinction between attempted murder and murder. I don't care if you're too bad of a shot to actually kill your target. You tried to do it, you have the same mindset of an actual murderer, you get the same penalty.

Require bianual gun safety and target training. And I mean TOUGH training that you have to pass 100% or you lose your gun. Even if you are a legitimate gun owner, I don't want your aim to be so piss poor that you miss the criminal and hit the guy near him, and I don't want you forgetting to put the safety on or to unload the gun before you mess with it.

ANY firearms violations and you should lose your guns, and lose your ability to buy guns for at least 3 years. Cheney could go out tomorrow hunting again even though he's already proven he's dangerous with firearms.

No more automatic weapons. No more assault rifles. You do not need an AK47 to kill a deer, even if the deer's really angry.

And while we're at it, this wouldn't be legislated, but I really wanna stop hearing that bullshit the gun lobby puts forth that people need guns so they can fight back if the government tries to oppress you. Number one, it's not gonna work. The army has tanks. The airforce has bombers. And they train every day. They beat entire countries. Japan, Germany, Iraq. . . sort of. And those are countries with more and bigger and better guns than you can get.

Cleetus sitting on his porch with a deer rifle is NOT going to stop the government if they want to oppress you. Plus, if the guns are really for protection from a government that's removing our rights, then why aren't they already shooting, since our government is actively involved in removing our rights as we speak.


so yeah, there's a lot more we could be doing to restrict gun ownership only to those sane enough and responsible enough and proficient enough to use them with a greatly reduced risk to the public.

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