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Old 02-20-2006, 09:41 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Definition of a bitch shield

Supple cow, I think you misinterpreted "devalue" from the (marginal) context of mbchill's statement. Or perhaps it's just because I understand the jargon

I believe the meaning was lost when he shortened devalue from lowering social value. It's not actually demeaning a woman, it's more about changing relative social mindframes that both you have and the person you're trying to attract has. Reading it over, it sounds like a complicated sentence... Let's say an average looking guy introduces himself to a beautiful woman. The guy knows he's average, and the girl knows she's beautiful. Her social value (say at a bar) would be very high- she probably has attractive friends, and lots of guys try to pick her up. The average guy needs to "level the playing field" in order to pique this girl's interest. He does so by demonstrating a higher value (which is different than saying he has higher value ie bragging) and also by lowering the social value of the girl he's talking to (perhaps by a deceptively well meant but slightly negative compliment- ex. "Wow, I love your hair, is that your real hair color? No? Well it still looks very nice.") While it's really not a very nice thing to do, it's more about getting the girl to think "Why isn't he all over me like the other guys? He must be different" than actually demeaning her and treating her badly.



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Originally Posted by mbchills
My problem, is that on occasion this girls bitch shield comes back, and it got annoying.
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Also, i'm not interested in just sex. If i was, i would've dropped her since vaginas are everywhere, I was actually intrigued by her.
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maybe the reason for the bitch shield, to see if i'm worth it
MbChills, you're interpreting the behavior from one specific environment and applying it to completely different behavior with different motivations behind it because it looks similar on the surface.

The bitch shield didn't "come back". Relationships are totally different creatures than seduction/attraction. According to seduction theory, the girl is giving you a "shit test" which is basically a control issue in addition to finding character/personality strengths and flaws. Compelling argument, and there may be truth in it.

It may very well be that she is testing you. It also could be a number of things- including what I believe is the most probable explanation: showing incongruity of character from what she saw from you at the bar to what she's discovered from spending more time with you.

I've met a few self described "PUAs" and those who aspire for that goal and the biggest problem i've seen is a deception, a certain character fraudulence. How can I describe this? Some people put on a mask for others to get them to believe they are something they are not. And instead of it becoming part of their character, the true personality and the fake one remain seperate and there is a struggle between the two which a lot of people will notice if they spend a lot of time with the person.

If you really are interested in women for more than physical beauty and sex, stop parroting techniques you read on the internet and get to know who you are and what sort of man you want to be. Accept yourself, know yourself, and most important be yourself. It's a true strength of character and the stability and confidence it brings will shine through to those who are important to you.
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