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Old 02-20-2006, 12:27 PM   #52 (permalink)
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How about hard work, vision, and goal setting?
Those are also ways of achieving success, but the term "Wealth" applies to an abundance of something, not just money.

You may create lots of money if you have a good work ethic. Some may even call you "Wealthy". I say that one does not need these magical skills you posess to be wealthy. You may be born into a privledged class and location.

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Define less fortunate. If you are a lazy slug are you 'less fortunate'?
In my opinion, yes. In my definition, I would leave out the terms 'lazy' and 'slug'. That's just me.



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Life is not a lottery, we rise and fall based on our own merits. If you create a fantasy land like the above, what do you think would happen? Those with the skills and abilities and drive would figure out how to get where they wanted to be, and your lazy slug ceo would fail. The only way your society would make me a homeless guy is at gun point. Take away everything accademic of mine, I'd still find something to do to keep me off the streets.
I think you and I are much closer than you originally propose; I am not talking communism here, but rather a set of rules that society follows that allows the rising and falling based on our merits. You do not want privledge to be passed on to the incompetent, do you? You don't want the meritous homeless child to be without any chance of improvement, do you?

I think I got this idea from Friedman, but any philosophy majors out there should correct me promptly. This is not a new concept, and I fear I am doing it a disservice by butchering the definition so badly. It is just this:

I want everyone to have the same chance, whether you are in a position of extreme wealth or poverty.

And I would beg to disagree about the whole lottery thing, Ustwo. I think you and I won the baby lottery, and are living in our repsective locations instead of Bangladesh, the Ivory Coast, Somalia, and 100 other countries. Do you catch what I'm throwing?
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