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moot1337 · 02-19-2006, 01:51 AM

Bottled water is silly most of the time... unless it's purified by reverse osmosis or just straight distillation, it's just the same water that comes out of your tap (usually). Have you seen the ads for this new Penta water stuff? They claim to have altered the molecular structure of H2O to make it more hydrating... well, not that you wouldn't have guessed this, but Penta water is exactly the same as any other filtered water... its molecular structure is unchanged, and there are even the exact same amount of H30+ and OH- ions floating around in it, making it the same substance inside every other bottle of bullcrap sold out there.

Chlorine is a serious chemical though, which is why I usually let water from my tap sit in an open container for a while before giving it to any of my plants, or myself. Nalgene bottles really are wonderful things, ya dig?

To expand upon the DuPont thing: the C-8 contamination is actually so widespread and has been going on for so long that it can be found in the blood of nearly every American - not just those in the high contamination areas. It's a chemical used in the manufacture of teflon, or, more specifically, the binding of teflon to metal, and isn't present in the final product... yet, somehow, it's found its way into groundwater and air just about everywhere, and eventually into our bloodstreams.

The good news is that it's not incredibly harmful - the trace amounts we have in our bloodstreams probably won't do much, with regard to birth defects, new diseases, and the like. Flourinated compounds are relatively stable because of how tightly flourine holds onto molecular bonds, but this does mean that its rate of degradation in the environment is VERY slow. Chlorinated compounds are much, much more toxic, as chlorine ionizes pretty easily, and can do some wonky shit to organisms - there's a reason why the French use Ozone, rather than chlorine, to purify their water.

The thing I find disturbing, though, is that DuPont continues to release this substance into air and water, as they have for more than 3 decades. They know that in large quantities, c-8 is harmful to human development, and they even know how to manufacture teflon without this chemical, but, because of the profit involved, they simply carry on. I've moved away from teflon products not because they're a particular health risk (though they do outgas above 300F) but because of that company's work ethic, which is one of lies, deceit, and greed. I encourage everyone to try out hard-anodized aluminum instead of teflon when you can, as it's much more durable and (usually) doesn't benefit such an underhanded company.

02-19-2006, 01:51 AM	#26 (permalink)
moot1337 Insane Location: Learning to Fly...	Bottled water is silly most of the time... unless it's purified by reverse osmosis or just straight distillation, it's just the same water that comes out of your tap (usually). Have you seen the ads for this new Penta water stuff? They claim to have altered the molecular structure of H2O to make it more hydrating... well, not that you wouldn't have guessed this, but Penta water is exactly the same as any other filtered water... its molecular structure is unchanged, and there are even the exact same amount of H30+ and OH- ions floating around in it, making it the same substance inside every other bottle of bullcrap sold out there. Chlorine is a serious chemical though, which is why I usually let water from my tap sit in an open container for a while before giving it to any of my plants, or myself. Nalgene bottles really are wonderful things, ya dig? To expand upon the DuPont thing: the C-8 contamination is actually so widespread and has been going on for so long that it can be found in the blood of nearly every American - not just those in the high contamination areas. It's a chemical used in the manufacture of teflon, or, more specifically, the binding of teflon to metal, and isn't present in the final product... yet, somehow, it's found its way into groundwater and air just about everywhere, and eventually into our bloodstreams. The good news is that it's not incredibly harmful - the trace amounts we have in our bloodstreams probably won't do much, with regard to birth defects, new diseases, and the like. Flourinated compounds are relatively stable because of how tightly flourine holds onto molecular bonds, but this does mean that its rate of degradation in the environment is VERY slow. Chlorinated compounds are much, much more toxic, as chlorine ionizes pretty easily, and can do some wonky shit to organisms - there's a reason why the French use Ozone, rather than chlorine, to purify their water. The thing I find disturbing, though, is that DuPont continues to release this substance into air and water, as they have for more than 3 decades. They know that in large quantities, c-8 is harmful to human development, and they even know how to manufacture teflon without this chemical, but, because of the profit involved, they simply carry on. I've moved away from teflon products not because they're a particular health risk (though they do outgas above 300F) but because of that company's work ethic, which is one of lies, deceit, and greed. I encourage everyone to try out hard-anodized aluminum instead of teflon when you can, as it's much more durable and (usually) doesn't benefit such an underhanded company. __________________ And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheeps' bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes. Oh, certainly, sir.