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Originally Posted by ratbastid
I'd LOVE to see some actual argumentation around here. But as long as certain factions keep themselves safely on the "Oh yeah, well you!" card, there's zero chance of that.
I feel you, pan, I truly do.
("Oh yeah, well Bill Clinton!", "Oh yeah, well Ted Kennedy!", "Oh yeah, well Hillary Clinton!"--all just variations on the same losing argument)
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This is why I mostly stay out of politics...seriously, we've covered the same hackneyed rhetoric from both sides again and again.
Pan, I'm sad to see you go from here as you do start threads I enjoy reading. You've got a good heart.